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Neville
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Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2005 :  1:34:00 PM  Show Profile
I already mentioned once how much I hate Terrence Malick's The thin red line. It has some great ideas (to show us what the GI's think before the battle, mankind vs. nature, nature of war and how it changes people), great production values, an excellent cast, an amzing soundtrack... and then it runs out of steam after the first half an hour. What a bluff.

I also hated Traffic. I really can't see why that effort in getting a good cast and trying to find a different way of filming what is only yet another good americans vs. bad Mexican druglords movie. Had it been made in the 80s, it would have featured Charles Bronson and we would have got more explosions.

Leasons I learned watching it (sorry Andrew): Beware of drug use, it can lead to interracial sex and ashaming your daddy.
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jedimom
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USA
1239 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2005 :  9:26:48 PM  Show Profile
Nosferatu.

I laughed and laughed. Especially where he's walking down the street and his coffin is stop-motioning after him like The Luggage in the Discworld books.

And that chick is totally a guy in drag.

(Lest anyone think I'm just an idiot who doesn't "get" silents, rest assured that I am an idiot who adores the restored "Metropolis" and can watch Buster Keaton all day long.)

"Oh, that is so lame! You will pay for your use of inappropriate dialogue!" --Mojo Jojo, "Power Prof"
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Food
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USA
342 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2005 :  9:44:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit Food's Homepage
Fight Club. When a movie backpedals from its own point halfway through, you KNOW it sucks.
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hbrennan
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Philippines
1455 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2005 :  9:49:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit hbrennan's Homepage
quote:
originally posted by jedimom:

(Lest anyone think I'm just an idiot who doesn't "get" silents, rest assured that I am an idiot who adores the restored "Metropolis" and can watch Buster Keaton all day long.)


I hear you. "The General" is my all time favorite silent movie.


"...yet it hadn't destroyed his brain."
re: Charles "The Butcher" Benton (1956)

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Tork_110
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USA
360 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2005 :  11:16:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit Tork_110's Homepage
I never cared much for Scream, but maybe I just had the wrong idea. I'm not a fan of slashers, but the commercial was intriguing. When I first saw it, the impression I got was that there was this killer. After killing off the first victim in the opening, plus one or two more, some kids get together and figure that the killer is getting his ideas from slasher films, so they watch a bunch of slashers and the most knowledgable geek gives the "rules". From there, the kids live or die based on how they follow the rules.

Instead, there's only 3 rules, and one of the rules could have been covered in the first rule, and the third rule seemed really weak. Plus, the heroine broke the most obvious rule and survived, despite the fact that it was all a part of the killer's dumb master plan. It never seemed like anyone was using the rules to survive.
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Neville
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Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2005 :  02:10:47 AM  Show Profile
Yep, the Scream franchise is very overrated. I didn't care much about the first film, after all that hype, and just after it looks like things are starting to pick up steam with number two, which at least has a tighter plot and some good suspense scenes, they go and throw the whole thing overboard with number three, which is nothing but a travesty.
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Neville
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Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2005 :  08:38:22 AM  Show Profile
OK, people. This board has been very tolerant to divergent opinions lately, so let's not spoil it now XD.

Highlander - Yes, the first one. Cinematography stinks, Lambert can't act, FX are dated and the plot is a mess. Oh, yes, we get a couple songs by Queen and a Sean Connery in a supporting role, but if these things could redeem a bad movie, we would be praising Wayne's World and The Avengers. By comparison, Highlander II - The Quickening stands head and shoulders above this one. Is sillier, no doubt, but at least it is funnier.

Star Wars - A New Hope - Oh, it always cracks me up, to hear people say that George Lucas can't direct, and mentioning episodes I and II as evidence. C'on, the very first Star Wars movie showed that already. Its characters lack charisma, the script is a mess (we wouldn't need two heroes if Luke was better fleshed out, the Force references are completely unnecessary), the settings look cheap (well, they probably were), and, worst of all, it is a bore. And I don't care if Lucas had enough good taste to hire Alec Guiness and Peter Cushing, they have less screen time than the desert creatures.
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MikeC
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USA
749 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2005 :  09:35:04 AM  Show Profile
BROADCAST NEWS: Albert Brooks (except when
playing Scorpio on THE SIMPSONS, or from his
appearances on THE ODD COUPLE TV series) is
quite over-rated and not funny

RUSHMORE: Absurdist, perhaps, but not a
comedy. Wes Anderson also gets my vote as
the most over-rated filmmaker of the last
decade.

SOMETHING WILD: It was marketed as a wacky
comedy, which it is for about half an hour.
It them becomes relentlessly dark and humorless,
so much so that it is the only movie I've
ever been tempted to walk out of.

MATRIX: Though it was innovative for about
3 months after its release, I have to put it
here because it must have set some record for
becoming utterly cliche, both visually and
thematically, in record time. So much so
that it completely sapped the power out of
the remaining films in the series.

MikeC

Edited by - MikeC on 09/07/2005 09:43:40 AM
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kdraut
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USA
343 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2005 :  3:29:02 PM  Show Profile
The Blair Witch Project and The Matrix are at the top of my over-rated movie list. After seeing each one, I couldn't understand what everyone had been raving about.

Blair Witch bored me to tears, and my survivalist nature had me rooting for the witch when the main characters revealed how unprepared they were to be in the woods. One map, no extra rations, no compass, no defensive implements, I'm glad the witch killed them. Stupid smarmy punks. <Yes, I am a grumpy old man.>

I fell asleep during The Matrix. Just wasn't very interesting to me. I've tried watching it again and it still doesn't do much for me.

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Mr. Blue
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Papua New Guinea
648 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2005 :  4:53:36 PM  Show Profile
I'll second Rushmore. That was one of the few times where a critical reccomendation actually caused me to spend money on a film. Then, completely regret it. Sure, it was pretty funny for about 5 minutes, then the whole thing seemed to just...die.

Another one: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Too much pointless, boring subplot.

"Down in the Delta, they say I was a fool for making that deal with the devil, they say I’ve got the hellhounds on my tail. But they also say this: there’s not a bluesman alive who can play the entire first part of Smoke on the Water like Hellbound Dave.
"-Iowahawk
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GalahadPC
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USA
380 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2005 :  6:18:03 PM  Show Profile
For me, The Matrix was cliche before it was ever released - all the innovation it promised was already old news back when it was known as Half the Cartoons Coming out of Japan. If nothing else, The Matrix only assured me that some things don't look nearly as cool in live action as they do in animation.

Speaking of which, I need to add one paradoxically obscure, yet well-known title to this list: Akira. A lot of anime fans will hold it up as a godfather of its genre, single-handedly responsible for the spread of anime in the west. After hearing about it for years and finally seeing it, I would admit it's got some juicy visuals, but that's all. The plot is a hideously confusing mess and the only likable character gets gang-raped and then squished to a pulp when her uncontrollably-psychic boyfriend mutates out of control. Blech.

The upside of this is that the director went on to make Steamboy, which I enjoyed much more thoroughly, and could actually watch with my family. Not a lot of movies out there have my oldest neice and brother-in-law going "whoa!" in unison.
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BradH812
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USA
1294 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2005 :  8:08:33 PM  Show Profile
Galahad, THANK YOU!!! I had forgotten about Akira (mercifully). But now that I remember it, I agree with you 100%. Considering the effort put into the visuals, this was a real disappointment.
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TVsGrady
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USA
671 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2005 :  8:20:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit TVsGrady's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Blue

Another one: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Too much pointless, boring subplot.


Crouching Tiger was one of those rare movies that made me come periously close to falling asleep in the theatre.









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Greenhornet
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Posted - 09/08/2005 :  8:30:51 PM  Show Profile
The most over-rated scene in a movie was Chaplin's "the dance of the rolls" in Gold Rush. It quickly became a cliche`, to be mocked by other comedians, includeing "Curley" Howard.

"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935
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Ubiq
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USA
347 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2005 :  01:03:59 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by GalahadPC
If nothing else, The Matrix only assured me that some things don't look nearly as cool in live action as they do in animation.



The thing that struck me the most during The Matrix was "I've seen this before". I just couldn't understand the big deal around it. Some of it was bewilderment at how some people treat the notion that reality is just some computer-generated illusion as this totally new, deep notion, but some of it was the lingering notion that this was ripped off something I had seen before.

Then one day, I'm watching Toonami on Cartoon Network and they're playing a Red Ribbon Army era episode of Dragon Ball, a hefty segment of the episode revolves around various Red Ribbon agents trying unsuccessfully to gun down Goku. Bingo. I'd almost swear that whole scene was incorporated into the Matrix.

Akira. A lot of anime fans will hold it up as a godfather of its genre, single-handedly responsible for the spread of anime in the west.

Maybe the old-school fans, but what really entrenched anime in this country was Dragon Ball Z. Some might try to argue that point, but DBZ was the first series to hit true mainstream popularity in this country and sustain it.

As far as the film goes, meh, for completionist sake, it should probably be seen, but the only truly essential anime films are made by Studio Ghibli.



BM: I should have mentioned this at the beginning. I solve my problems with violence.
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