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Criswell
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu

32 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2005 :  8:43:21 PM  Show Profile
I just saw a trailer for Dungeons & Dragons 2, and it looks like it might not compleatly suck.

It seems that this one appears to be truer to the source material.

Of course, you would almost have to make a concerted effort to be worse than the last one...

"Something's wrong with our worm Earl." -Grady-

"Nyo Ho!" -Gyro Zepelli-

KreenWarrior
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

111 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2005 :  10:04:15 PM  Show Profile
Indeed, I too was pleasantly surprised. Still rather ticked off that the Evil Dragon God is for some reason not Tiamat (the evil dragon god of D&D pretty much by default).
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Pip
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
333 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2005 :  11:12:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit Pip's Homepage
I wonder if Tom Baker will come back as the chief of the Keebler elves. He sort of looks like Ernie:

http://www.tvacres.com/admascots_keebler.htm

Pip

Buy the book. You won't be (too) sorry. http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/11/11457.phtml
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KreenWarrior
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

111 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2005 :  01:58:44 AM  Show Profile
Just saw it. Was a much better D&D movie than the first one, so that made me happy, even if it was still pretty disjointed.

Good sense of it being a D&D adventure, with the appropriate traveling, traps, puzzles, and such, though it fell apart at the climax as the plot came together in such a way as to make very little sense.

One intelligent dragon, one dumb one.

The wizard cast 4 different spells, I think, which was better than the first one.

I have no idea why they killed off the cleric. He didn't even really have time to become a character.

Things I learned:

Neutral gods of nature in it's pure form can be the main religion of a kingdom.

When you mismatch a dragon's color and breath weapon, it destroys all credibility, as it would take 2 minutes to look up the right information.

Yelling at someone to not kill an enemy because they need him to break a curse, then threatening to kill him unless he breaks said curse, is an effective tactic.

Siccing an evil dragon god on a kingdom is apparently not grounds for anything more than a life sentence. Possibility of parole not mentioned.

Goblins make useful maps, then hide them so they can't get at them without being impaled.

Anyways, at least they threw a few of the appropriate names and phrases around, even if the knowledge of what they meant was a bit lacking.
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GalahadPC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
380 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2005 :  07:48:15 AM  Show Profile
This is ill news, Kreen. Circumstances prevented me from watching or recording it on its first showing, so I resolved to try again when it replays Thursday. Meanwhile, I was hoping it was worth a good hatchet job, because I've been in need of a good fun project and was looking forward to this being a prime candidate. From the sound of it, it was a decent movie if you overlook some relatively minor discrepancies.
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John Nowak
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1017 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2005 :  08:45:40 AM  Show Profile
The thing that bugged me most about the first D&D film was that it was pretty obvious one of the characters was having a relationship with the DM.



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tam1MI
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
558 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2005 :  10:33:19 PM  Show Profile
Oh, come on, you guys who watched it, tell us the IMPORTANT stuff!

Does Damodar still have blue lips?

;)
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KreenWarrior
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

111 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  12:23:38 AM  Show Profile
Nope. He also lost the weird demon tentacle things.

Despite this, he still looks dorky as heck.
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GalahadPC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
380 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  12:33:59 AM  Show Profile
First no Tiamat, and now no blue lips on Damodar? What the hell was left for us to watch then? Next you'll be telling us that the hero's not gifted at some point with a mystical sword of legend, and doesn't get a girlfriend by the end.
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KreenWarrior
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

111 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  12:24:17 PM  Show Profile
Actually, right on both counts. The main hero has a relatively minor magic sword (it cuts through inanimate objects well, or something) and a wife from the beginning that he keeps through the end.

They do get a magical legendary orb thingy, though. I think. The climax didn't make too much sense.
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GalahadPC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
380 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  2:50:53 PM  Show Profile
A sword for cutting through inanimate objects doesn't seem quite as useful as one that would be good for cutting people trying to kill you, but it's a step up from the +3 sword of vague beneficence the elves unloaded onto Ridley.

But a fantasy hero who's married? Happily? And she doesn't die tragically or get turned to the dark side or anything? Now I really need to see this movie.
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1791 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  3:39:17 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by GalahadPC

A sword for cutting through inanimate objects doesn't seem quite as useful as one that would be good for cutting people trying to kill you, but it's a step up from the +3 sword of vague beneficence the elves unloaded onto Ridley.


Well, if a guy in ARMOR was comeing at you, it would come in handy! But with my luck, the GM would rule that armor was an articulated object and thus the sword gets "-2 to hit" or something.
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John Nowak
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1017 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2005 :  09:05:36 AM  Show Profile
I dunno -- a sword able to go through a door while remaining a useful sword does sound kinda useful. I mean, it's not Excalibur's scabbard, but it's better than a +2 Dagger of Cap-Snaffling, because there aren't any caps to snaffle.


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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
2329 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2005 :  10:43:33 AM  Show Profile
As long as somebody gets "Wasted with a crossbow!"...i'm happy.

"Reality is arguable...lunch time is not." H. Flangepart.

"One Weekend a month my ass!" Crow- The Beginning of the End.

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KurtVon
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
387 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2005 :  12:08:27 PM  Show Profile
I had a friend who used to argue Stonecutter was the most useless sword in Saberhagen's Swords series. I guess it was a popular sentiment because he countered by producing a book that delt almost exclusively with it. The outcome was that such things can be darn useful (and it isn't like it's harmless to flesh, so it's still a good weapon in general).
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John Doe
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu

USA
91 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2005 :  8:13:14 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by KurtVon

I had a friend who used to argue Stonecutter was the most useless sword in Saberhagen's Swords series. I guess it was a popular sentiment because he countered by producing a book that delt almost exclusively with it. The outcome was that such things can be darn useful (and it isn't like it's harmless to flesh, so it's still a good weapon in general).


Remember in an early book a master swordsman with Coinspinner (i think) "In my hands, doubly magic"

edited to fix quote

my eyes!! the goggles do nothing!!

Edited by - John Doe on 10/12/2005 5:34:58 PM
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