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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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 Posted - 10/31/2005 : 9:21:51 PM
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As for the gore, it doesn't really frighten me so much as gross me out, and I don't think that's the same thing. My reaction is "Ugh! I didn't want to see that", which is the same reaction I would get if I saw a fat guy in a speedo.
CobraCmdr, thank you for this line, which sums up completely my opinion of most modern horror films.
(small voice) Does that mean I need to throw out the Speedo I just bought? |
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MikeC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 10:45:56 AM
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Originally posted by BradH812
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Originally posted by twitterpate
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Originally posted by CobraCmdr
As for the gore, it doesn't really frighten me so much as gross me out, and I don't think that's the same thing. My reaction is "Ugh! I didn't want to see that", which is the same reaction I would get if I saw a fat guy in a speedo.
CobraCmdr, thank you for this line, which sums up completely my opinion of most modern horror films.
(small voice) Does that mean I need to throw out the Speedo I just bought?
Just what I wanted to read while eating lunch......
MikeC, LongCut should post more often.....
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 1:05:33 PM
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The one gory movie that I do find really creepy is the 1981 version of the Thing. Not because the images are gross, but because they are so disturbingly "wrong".
CobraCmdr nails it. The Thing is the only special FX horror movie I've ever seen that gave me nightmares. |
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 4:28:41 PM
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For me, the ENDING to the remake of the Thing was the best.
The alien SEEMED to be defeated, the survivors sit down to have a dring and we fade to black, the sounds of them drinking in silence leading to the closeing credits.
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935 |
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ELOrocks17
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
USA
131 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2005 : 2:23:31 PM
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| I absolutly agree on Characterization. It is a must in horror movies. Most slasher movies had zero likeable characters. But when you look at movies like ALIEN and POLTERGEIST, these are people you actually root for. Friday the 13th on the other hand we couldnt wait for Jason to hack ep up since they were so annoying. |
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Matrixprime
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 11/08/2005 : 8:38:08 PM
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Might I suggest that, at least if its done right, a good way to make a Great Horror Movie IS to use stereotypes? Now, add a little bit of shading, but in a horror movie the focus is the Source of Horror. So, using stereotypes well could go a long way to movie shorthand. Saw characters were stereotypes (Obsessed Cop, Preachy Psycho, Arrogant Doctor, etc) but the movie was a good horror movie. I thought Event Horizon was pretty good, but they were all stereotypes (Tragic Commander, Crotchety Doctor, Off Kilter Scientist). Seven had the weary cop, the Fresh Faced Cop, the Loving Wife, the Preachy Psycho. I'm tired, so I can't think of any other films (or better Horror examples, sorry) but you get the idea.
If a stereotype is used and that's it (ex, any slasher film) then it becomes a detriment. Now, the viewer has NO interest, and basically can go 'Dies, Dies, Lives, Lives, Dies, Dies' in the first few minutes and be right on target. But take a stereotype, add a few twists, and voila - now you have a character that the viewer fills in most of the background info from experience, tacks on the little bit of variation, and you have more time to devote to the creepiness.
The best example I can come up with now is In The Mouth of Madness; easily one of the BEST horror movies ever. Everyone's a stereotype. They're all hardly more than one dimensional. But some of the characters have enough nuances to them to where I felt they have more depth than some (gag) drama's. I especially loved how Sam Neils character is so chipper and upbeat in the beginning, and how you see the transformation. You don't see much in the way of earlier characterization, and that's fine - because, the fact he's a sterotype (Hard Boiled Cynic) gives you that info u8p front.
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RVHorror
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 11/09/2005 : 1:19:13 PM
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| I think you raise many good points, but I'd like to mention something in terms of gore. Most films use it effectively, but some give you the impression that more is there than actually is. Texas Chainsaw Massacre and (famously) Halloweed have very little on screen (which is where I assume it counts). And my pick for most frightening film, the 1960's Haunting, has none at all. So while Dawn of the Dead can be extremely gory in effective way, it's not completely necessary for a successful horror movie. |
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