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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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 Posted - 01/20/2006 : 06:54:31 AM
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Anyone have predictions on how this is going to do? I have read a couple of reviews and they all have a similar tone to the reviews I read when The Thin Red Line was coming out. There's high praise for the visuals and the typical comments about how the movie is for those who like movies that require deep thinking. Considering that they are dumping it in the January-February time frame, that doesn't bode well.
The ROPe gives you three options, convert, submit, or die. There is a fourth, resist. |
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CobraCmdr
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
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Posted - 01/20/2006 : 11:30:03 AM
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Since I am from Virginia and am pretty familiar with the history of the Jamestown colony I am interested in seeing this one, and I've heard good things about it.
However, I am pissed that Captain Christopher Newport, played by Christopher Plummer doesn't have a hook for a hand. Come on people, every hook-handed pirate in fiction (including Captain Hook)is based off of this guy! He was famous for it. |
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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
644 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2006 : 6:18:58 PM
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Hollywood is missing a ton of good stories from the past. Just recently I read an article about Clark who led the expedition in the West (Ohio, Illinois, Indiana) to wrest control of it from the British. How can you not get a great story out of a small group of men (approx. 150) trekking through wilderness in the winter, slogging through chest deep water from swollen rivers for miles, and fighting in the American cause. Hollywood can even get its PC moment since Clark executed four captured Indians from the British side when they stumbled into his camp. Just putting the facts into an interesting narrative can almost always be better than some made up or revisionist story.
The ROPe gives you three options, convert, submit, or die. There is a fourth, resist. |
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Dirk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
237 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2006 : 6:48:53 PM
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| The New World will be every inch the blockbuster that Tristan and Isolde is shaping up to be. Take that as you will. |
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 01/20/2006 : 7:46:12 PM
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| USA Today gave The New World two stars. Interesting how quickly people forget: USA Today's critic implied that The New World shares The Thin Red Line's problem: great-looking pictures, but not enough story. But they gave Line four stars when it came out. |
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Cannon Fodder
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Australia
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Posted - 01/23/2006 : 06:03:46 AM
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Originally posted by Terrahawk
[br Hollywood can even get its PC moment since Clark executed four captured Indians from the British side when they stumbled into his camp. Just putting the facts into an interesting narrative can almost always be better than some made up or revisionist story.
Um, isn't killing Indians rather un-PC? |
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Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Israel
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Posted - 01/23/2006 : 06:27:35 AM
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Originally posted by CobraCmdr
However, I am pissed that Captain Christopher Newport, played by Christopher Plummer doesn't have a hook for a hand. Come on people, every hook-handed pirate in fiction (including Captain Hook)is based off of this guy! He was famous for it.
Was Captain Hook in any way based on a real person? I believe that one man's vicious stereotype is another man's embarrassing fact, but I've always said that there are no embarrassing facts in fantasy or science fiction. I believe that Captain Hook and Dr. Strangelove are amputees because Barrie and Kubrick didn't like amputees and that Big Brother's henchman, in 1984, is named O'Brien because Orwell didn't like Irishmen. |
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Asta Kask
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Sweden
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Posted - 01/23/2006 : 06:41:52 AM
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Originally posted by Cannon Fodder
Um, isn't killing Indians rather un-PC?
Yes but it's done by a brit, and all brits are evil. Just watch any Mel Gibson movie.
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Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Israel
229 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2006 : 06:45:09 AM
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Originally posted by Terrahawk
Hollywood is missing a ton of good stories from the past. Just recently I read an article about Clark who led the expedition in the West (Ohio, Illinois, Indiana) to wrest control of it from the British. How can you not get a great story out of a small group of men (approx. 150) trekking through wilderness in the winter, slogging through chest deep water from swollen rivers for miles, and fighting in the American cause. Hollywood can even get its PC moment since Clark executed four captured Indians from the British side when they stumbled into his camp. Just putting the facts into an interesting narrative can almost always be better than some made up or revisionist story.
The story of Abbie Gardner, how she had her whole family killed before her eyes in the Spirit Lake Massacre, how she was captured and held prisoner by the Sioux for 84 days before being released, how she ultimately became a champion of Indian rights and is regarded, to this day, as a Sioux Holy Woman, would make a wonderful film, light years better than DANCES WITH WOLVES. |
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CobraCmdr
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
70 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2006 : 08:27:51 AM
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Originally posted by Hinda
Was Captain Hook in any way based on a real person? I believe that one man's vicious stereotype is another man's embarrassing fact, but I've always said that there are no embarrassing facts in fantasy or science fiction.
I didn't mean his personality inspired Captain Hook, just the idea of a bucaneer captian with a hook for a hand. |
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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
644 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2006 : 10:00:34 AM
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I meant it as being PC since it shows the evil white man committing atrocities against the Indians.
The ROPe gives you three options, convert, submit, or die. There is a fourth, resist. |
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 01/23/2006 : 8:43:45 PM
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I believe that Captain Hook and Dr. Strangelove are amputees because Barrie and Kubrick didn't like amputees....
Strangelove "had Tourette's Syndrome" and it was exacurated to the point of his arm haveing a mind of it's own.
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935 |
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