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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2006 :  4:05:16 PM  Show Profile
Right now most commentary tracks have the right adequately-critical/blatant-selling-out-of-the -film ratio. If they push it just a little more, it would be like those awful "making of" documentaries. They used to be good at the beginning, but now are just bad promos with some behind the scenes footage squeezed in.
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Cannon Fodder
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

Australia
176 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2006 :  05:58:29 AM  Show Profile
A lot of the few negative commentary tracks I've come across seem to be for movies I actually like. 'Top Secret' for example had the ZAZ team talking for half the movie about how and why it didn't really work. I can't help but wish the makers of movies I really disliked were generally so critical.
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MikeC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
749 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2006 :  07:15:36 AM  Show Profile
The thing that annoys me about most commentary tracks, even
the good ones, is that it seems they completely mix out
the real dialog, which can make things hard to follow even
for movies I know well (like GHOSTBUSTERS, which has a great
MST3K tribute commentary track).

Or is it just that I have a crappy sound system?

MikeC
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1126 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2006 :  11:55:50 AM  Show Profile
I would say 95% of all commentaries I've ever heard have the film somewhat audible in the background. So maybe it's you! *g* There's generally subtitles as well...
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jackspencerjr
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

262 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2006 :  2:43:47 PM  Show Profile
Of course, if you're listening to the commentary track, actually hearing the movie is kind of pointless.

Probably the worst commentary track I've hear in recent memory was on Thumb Wars where the director and the others on the track explained every single joke.
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1126 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2006 :  7:47:57 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by jackspencerjr

Of course, if you're listening to the commentary track, actually hearing the movie is kind of pointless.

Not entirely, I get what he's saying. You don't want it to be loud enough to distract from the commentary, but if you can't hear it at all it's psychologically annoying to me. Having it somewhat audible ties the commentary into the movie, and it fills the gaps too.
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jackspencerjr
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

262 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2006 :  9:44:51 PM  Show Profile
Well, as kind of a background noise, yeah. I get that. But to complain that you can't here lines and stuff is weird. I mean, of course not. Someone is talking all the way through the movie with the commentary track on.
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MikeC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
749 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2006 :  06:52:06 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by jackspencerjr

Well, as kind of a background noise, yeah. I get that. But to complain that you can't here lines and stuff is weird. I mean, of course not. Someone is talking all the way through the movie with the commentary track on.



I don't feel that the dialog on a movie is superfluous.
Its as much a part of the movie as the choice of lenses
or the effects or the costumes. I'm sure that if DVD
makers wanted to, they could do a better overlay mix of
the commentary track so you don't lose the dialog, but
let's face it: DVD's are so profitable for the studios
that they probably don't spend that much time on making
the commentary track play nice (audio is a lot more
difficult to deal with than, say, flashy computer generated
menu screens).

Besides: a fair amount of the commentary tracks I've
heard often digress into script matters that often
make no sense without being able to hear what the
commentators are talking about.

To each their own, I guess.

MikeC
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Desslar
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu

USA
51 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2006 :  4:26:05 PM  Show Profile
If the MST3K people were smart they would supply branded commentaries to critically savaged films with meager DVD sales prospects. For example:

Gigli by itself = little to no consumer interest

Gigli with MST3K commentary track = cult phenomenon
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