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KurtVon
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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 Posted - 04/19/2006 : 09:06:51 AM
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Um, maybe I'm just an old guy and have mellowed to the stupid things other people say (you can only hear so much before it all starts to sound teh same anyway) but I'm going to play "one of these things is not like the others here, and see if you can spot it:
"I just want to see these [expletive] swinging from their heels in the public square."
"I feel like I'm being molested everytime I hear his voice."
"It was rather though[t]less of me to compare the most asinine, brutal, criminal, disgusting, enraging, felonious, gross, horrendous, incompetent, jaundiced, kleptocratic, lazy, malicious, nefarious, objectional, psychopathic, quarrelsome, repulsive, sanctimonious, treasonous, unfit, vindictive, wasteful, xenophobic, yahooish, zealotic piece of [expletive] inhabiting the White House and the planet to persons suffering with a neurobiological disorder."
"Liberalism is a mental disorder"
Oh, and Neville, I'm sure things looked different from outside the country, but I assure you, at no point ever during Bush's presidency did he enjoy even close to that level of popular support. Especially not in the media.
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MikeC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
749 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2006 : 09:19:52 AM
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<*Mike walks up and grabs hands all around*>
Cumbaya, My Lord, Cumbaya.....
<*The denizens of the board whale the tar out
of me, and deservedly so: unless you're a
native Gullah speaker, or have time travelled
from the mid- to late-1960's, you have no
business singing Cumbaya*>
I have nothing more to add than this attempt at
forming unity amongst the Jabootu faithful.
Oh, and I'm going to be working the word Bucrapler
into every day conversation from this day foward.
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BT
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
USA
168 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2006 : 09:58:41 AM
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But again, Kurt, you are comparing a fringe lefty to an established figure from the right. If networks start interviewing this woman for her opinion of current events, it would be an apt comparison.
And NShumate, while I fully agree there are any number of lefties drowning angry young man bile, my argument is that it is silly to think it resides on only one side of the aisle. One need look no further than the DEATH THREATS currently being issued to the SAW (Students Against War?) by the happy readers of Michelle Malkin to see that there is certainly no shortage of angry young man bile on the right as well. |
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Tork_110
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
360 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2006 : 10:11:11 AM
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2006 : 11:07:51 AM
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Originally posted by KurtVon
Oh, and Neville, I'm sure things looked different from outside the country, but I assure you, at no point ever during Bush's presidency did he enjoy even close to that level of popular support. Especially not in the media.
Hey, I'm not saying Bush himself is personally responsible of every thing I mentioned, like the idea of boycotting France. I though we were talking of left / right wingers in general. And you have to admit that the idea of giving "proper" names to the French fries didn't come from loony leftists.
And, now that you mention the media, yes, I have no doubt the way Spanish media portray the Bush Jr. administration is very different from any U.S.A. equivalent. The reports we are getting here of Bush' popularity is that he and his government had wide support at that moment (at the beginning of the Iraq invasion), and that only now, after several years of war in Iraq, his popularity is declining.
Problem is, our media tend to put much more emphasis on the U.S. external policy that in its internal policy, which we hardly ever hear about, and they also tend to link any poll result to recent external policy events.
So, how popular is exactly George W. Bush right now? Spanish media say he's weaker than ever, but that his party doesn't seem in danger of losing next elections.
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hk6909
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
651 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2006 : 11:35:53 AM
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This is why I don't follow politics. Arguing religion is so much easier.
No, as a matter of fact, there has never been one single time where I've been mellow. |
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Ken HPoJ
Supreme Potentate
USA
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Posted - 04/19/2006 : 11:59:59 AM
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Originally posted by BT
My argument is that it is silly to think it resides on only one side of the aisle. One need look no further than the DEATH THREATS currently being issued to the SAW (Students Against War?) by the happy readers of Michelle Malkin to see that there is certainly no shortage of angry young man bile on the right as well.
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005008.htm
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1126 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2006 : 12:13:47 PM
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Look, it's obvious that when you deal with ideologies involving hundreds of millions of people you will get a bell curve of attitudes and behaviors from all sides. I think the question is, what is (as Ayn Rand would say) the sense of life that emerges from each group??
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Prankster
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Canada
727 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2006 : 1:19:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ken HPoJ
quote:
Originally posted by BT
My argument is that it is silly to think it resides on only one side of the aisle. One need look no further than the DEATH THREATS currently being issued to the SAW (Students Against War?) by the happy readers of Michelle Malkin to see that there is certainly no shortage of angry young man bile on the right as well.
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005008.htm
That same article features a bunch of quotes from Daily Kos readers denouncing these moonbats, so I don't see how the left doesn't keep tabs on its own. Not that anyone's responsible for what these kooks write but themselves anyway.
Malkin also recently published a bunch of readers' letters full of vitriol for James Loney and the kidnapped Christian peacekeepers, which I thought was really beyond the pale. To me it's not simply the degree of anger, it's the hatefulness, hypocrisy and wrongheadedness of the statements in question.
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BT
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
USA
168 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2006 : 1:30:42 PM
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| Ken, I assume that the link you posted was to show that there are unhinged individuals on the left. I'll just say that their responses to Malkin are reprehensible. However, my argument is NOT that there are no angry loonies on the left, just that there is anger and idiots on BOTH sides. The Malkin exchanges would seem to prove my point. |
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KurtVon
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
387 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2006 : 3:18:52 PM
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Originally posted by BT
But again, Kurt, you are comparing a fringe lefty to an established figure from the right. If networks start interviewing this woman for her opinion of current events, it would be an apt comparison.
<Argh, long reply eaten by database errors. I'll try again, but man . . .>
I was comparing hand-picked most-vicious taken-out-of-context-quotes with hand-picked most-vicious taken-out-of-context-quotes. The comparison is apt, if you are trying to cast Anne Coultre as the equivalent loony to these people, look elsewhere. I mean it, I'm sure you will find it if you look.
And as to Neville's question. Well, the U.S. is a very divided country. Outside of political loyalist loonies (and yes, every party has one*) I don't think there are any large groups that agree on all points. Probably at least in part due to the vast array of different cultures mixed in here as much as the general attitude of independent thinking encouraged despite (definately not because) of the media.
Given that, among the people I know about one fourth opposed attacking the Taliban (and that's in New York, too), two thirds opposed invading Iraq at the start, and about 90% do now (it dropped to about one third when the statue was torn down, but bounced back up rather quick).
Those numbers are probably lower in the midwest, higher in California, and perhaps lower around here outside the mostly actors and musicians crowd I end up spending time with.
[ * Niven's Law: There is no cause so right you cannot find a fool following it.
My Corollary: If you can't find the fool following your cause, you are it. ]
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1475 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2006 : 12:35:56 AM
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Originally posted by Prankster
Malkin also recently published a bunch of readers' letters full of vitriol for James Loney and the
kidnapped Christian peacekeepers, which I thought was really beyond the pale. To me it's not
simply the degree of anger, it's the hatefulness, hypocrisy and wrongheadedness of the
statements in question.
Presumably Prankster is referring to this:
[url]http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004826.htm[/url]
To wit: Malkin's readers were angry with the Christian peacekeepers because their organization initially did not thank the British and U.S. soldiers who risked their lives who rescued the soldiers. Further, their organization's original press release implied that soldiers played no part in the hostages' release at all; the hostages were "released" rather than "rescued".
One is certainly free to argue whether readers' responses were wrongheaded. However, how the readers' comments constitute "hatefulness" and "hypocrisy" (?) is beyond me.
Further, to compare their statements to the e-mails in the previous Malkin post is nothing short of ludicrous. "Sure, those Lefties may have dropped the 'C' word on Malkin a few times, but hey, one of Malkin's readers called the hostages 'hippies'." |
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BT
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
USA
168 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2006 : 08:03:31 AM
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| Zombie, I can't say for sure, because I didn't know about the Malkin/peacekeeper flareup until this post, but my guess is that Malkin is posting the "polite" letters from her readers, and the foul horrid c-word filled rants from her opponents. My guess is that there is a lefty site out there with examples of bile delievered from Malkinites to the peacekeepers that would be on par with the ones Malkin posted. But again, I have not seen specifics, so I could be wrong. |
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Ken HPoJ
Supreme Potentate
USA
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Posted - 04/20/2006 : 1:00:34 PM
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For those who haven't been following the SAW (Students Against War) incident, Malkin reprinted a publicly-posted Internet press release from a student organization that harrassed military recruiters into leaving their campus job fair, by means including the slashing of tires and rock-throwing.
Malkin was one of multiple sites, including many liberal ones, that republished this press release. Like many of these sites (including again the liberal ones), she reprinted the entire press release, which included the e-mail addresses and phone numbers of the group's contact represenatives.
These people have reported getting harrassing phone calls, and even death threats. Obviously no one person has condoned this. However, the liberal blogs and sites have now gone after Malkin in retaliation, and in a particularly charming move, have posted her home phone number, the home address of her and her family, and posted maps of her neighborhood.
Moreover, I have seen similar info posted for Malkin's FATHER. Indymedia, meanwhile, has presumily decided to go the pre-emptive route, and published home info on the people running several "right-winger" websites, including that of several people who aren't even particularly conservative, including Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds and Steve Green.
This is justified because Malkin reprinting publicly posted press release information is "fascism, clear and simple," which isn't suprising, because Malkin, they note, "a filthy right-wing fascist." Much like Hilter's Nazis, who were well known for malicously reprinting press release info.
By the way, Indymedia is one of the liberal sites I alluded to that had earlier posted the press release on their own site, and had also included the fame info that Malkin had on her website. They've now tried to cover their asses by removing the phone numbers and e-mail addresses from the page, although again, they too had originally posted the same info.
Say what you will for Malkin, she has balls:
"And if you think I'm going to stop blogging/writing/making a living because you've plastered my family's private home address, phone numbers, and photos and maps of my neighborhood all over the Internet to further your manufactured outrage and pathetic coddling of a bunch of lying, anti-troops punks at UC Santa Cruz...
...you better think again."
PEGGY: I don't see how having a girl on the team would ruin it. Did a woman judge ruin the Supreme Court?
HANK: Yes, and that woman's name was Earl Warren.
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TheFoywonder
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
833 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2006 : 02:21:10 AM
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Malkin has balls? Should pundits of either the liberal or conservative variety be applauded for being a controversy monger? Malkin's a perfect example of why I describe most political debates as being the equal to pro wrestling. She's completely blind to her own ideology, constantly spews inflammatory stuff designed to get certain people/group angry, and then both revels in the uproar she's caused while at the same time crying about the level of vitriole she recieves. Her only contribution to the discourse is more discourse. The Michelle Malkin's of the world of both the liberal and conservative side of political spectrum shouldn't be praises, they should be marginalized.
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