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Artican
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Posted - 07/26/2006 :  03:32:06 AM  Show Profile
I was re-reading the review of Johnny Mnemonic, and Ken assumed that the Japanese kanji character in the corner of the screencap of "The Internet 2021" meant, well, what I just said.
I was personally curious as to what it actually meant. So I looked it up in a kanji dictionary. While it didn't meant "Internet 2021", I found that it meant something far more appropriate and funny.
The kanji means "hackneyed".
I can only wonder if the filmmakers grabbed a random kanji and threw it up there, or if it was a very obscure joke. Either way, I found this hillarious. Just wanted to let ya know.

Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2006 :  08:07:52 AM  Show Profile
Adding another side note, I recently stumbled into a copy of William Gibson's short story in which the film is based and it's every bit as bad (if not worse) than the resulting movie.

Incompetent as the film is, nobody should blame them of destroying Mr. Gibson's work.
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MikeC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
749 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2006 :  1:16:47 PM  Show Profile
The worst part about JOHNNY NMEMONIC was that
they couldn't use the best thing about the
original story (Which I remember somewhat more
fondly than Neville does):

Molly Millions, the cybernetic asassin/bodyguard
with the steel fingernails and the silver eyes.

Molly is probably Gibson's best character, since
she went on to be the 'female lead' in NEUROMANCER
(which seems very very dated now), and when he
negotiated the film rights to JM, he specifically
did not include Molly, since he apparently had
plans for her in other films.

For the film, they created the character of Jane
to fill in, but for obvious reasons couldn't
completely duplicate Molly. Which is a shame,
because if they ever do need Molly Millions on
the screen, Dina Mayer would be perfect.

Gibson is the classic example of a writer who
was too tied to his time to have any lasting
fame. Which is a shame, really: he's pretty
good (if repetitive).

MikeC
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2006 :  1:56:57 PM  Show Profile
I enjoyed his Neuromancer novel as well, although I didn't relate Molly's character until you mentioned her again, but every other work by Gibson I've ever read was bottom of the barrel.

Edited by - Neville on 07/26/2006 1:57:49 PM
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Cannon Fodder
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

Australia
176 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2006 :  03:54:29 AM  Show Profile
I never really got the appeal of William Gibson. I found the cyberspace world created in Neuromancer to be quite interesting but the book was full of technobabble, which admittedly might actually make more sense to someone more tech inclined than me, and I really found his writing style to offputting and hard to read. I also read Mona Lisa Overdrive which was not much better.
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2006 :  07:39:05 AM  Show Profile
I don't think the technabable in Gibson (as well as in many other sci-fi authors) makes sense outside his novels. After all, he was writting about Internet-like or virtual reality technology while it was still phantasy, so he did it in his own terms.
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ArrBirch
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

164 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2006 :  10:14:10 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Neville

Adding another side note, I recently stumbled into a copy of William Gibson's short story in which the film is based and it's every bit as bad (if not worse) than the resulting movie.


But the Loteks had doberman teeth. Doberman teeth! And a trampoline of death complete with yo-yo ninjas!
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2006 :  1:07:02 PM  Show Profile
Not only that, you could throw it out of the window when done, a feature I sorely missed on the theatre.
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John Nowak
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1017 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2006 :  10:12:39 PM  Show Profile
Didn't see it, but the bit in Ken's review that troubled me most was the encryption bit.

Taking three screen captures and using it as a key to encrypt data is a perfectly valid idea and it would work.

Since the only secure encryption routine uses a key length longer than the encrypted data, and Johnny's head is carrying more information than three screen captures (I'm talking about the character, you understand -- not Keeanu Reeves) then the encrypted data is vulnerable to being cracked. It's perfectly reasonable that it was too secure for the LoTeks to decrypt, but a megacorp with more money, computing power, and time probably could.

However, when generating a key:

a) Screen captures of cartoons would be a bad idea, because the images are less complex than full-color live footage. Johnny should have known this.

b) Pictures of any type are not random. Instead of using screen captures, they should have used the script from any Uwe Boll film, which follow no internal logic of any sort. However, the film was made before Uwe Boll became famous, so we should forgive the movie that glitch.

c) If you take three screen captures, you can generate a digital key. Fine so far. But if you take those pictures, print them out, and then fax them, there is almost no chance that the fax signal (presumably digital) would match the original digital key.

It's like taking a digital picture, printing it, and scanning the paper printout: the scanned image will not be the same as the original picture. The two may look absolutely identical, but they won't match, and so they cannot be used as a key.





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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2006 :  05:08:49 AM  Show Profile
These days, they could have used frames from a DivX video file and send the captures through e-mail. They would have matched perfectly. Ironically, for all its techno-bable and presumed forecasting habilities neiher William Gibson nor director Robert Longo could predict the present availability of DivX technology. Nor even e-mail.
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1791 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2006 :  2:47:49 PM  Show Profile
And let's not forget that Johnny had upgraded to more memory, but they had SOMEHOW gotten MORE bytes of data into his noggin that it could hold!
Anyone whose tried to save a download knows what will happen when you try this.

Also, they said the formula was HUNDREDS of megabytes, didn't they? Even if they included pictures and instructions on how to harvest the ingredients for the medicine, that is one LONG formula! Look at what you can fit onto the standard floopy disc and you have to wonder if they had "PADDED" the data for security.

"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2006 :  3:09:22 PM  Show Profile
True, the movie would have been 10 times funnier if Keanu reeves was running for his life with a 3 1/2 floppy disk inserted up his rectum. But of course, then the cyberpunk - dystopia - neo noir stuff would be gone. But it would have been great to see Keanu running under that conditions.
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BradH812
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USA
1294 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2006 :  8:56:27 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Neville

True, the movie would have been 10 times funnier if Keanu reeves was running for his life with a 3 1/2 floppy disk inserted up his rectum. But of course, then the cyberpunk - dystopia - neo noir stuff would be gone. But it would have been great to see Keanu running under that conditions.



I may regret asking this, but... how would they get it out? A glove and lots of Kentucky jelly?
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1791 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2006 :  9:05:42 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by BradH812

quote:
Originally posted by Neville

True, the movie would have been 10 times funnier if Keanu reeves was running for his life with a 3 1/2 floppy disk inserted up his rectum. But of course, then the cyberpunk - dystopia - neo noir stuff would be gone. But it would have been great to see Keanu running under that conditions.



I may regret asking this, but... how would they get it out? A glove and lots of Kentucky jelly?


Well, you know what they say: "Garbage in, garbage out".

"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935
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John Nowak
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1017 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2006 :  9:17:45 PM  Show Profile
Neville's right -- that would have worked. As long as you have two copies of the key -- one to encrypt at the source and another at the receiver -- it'll work.


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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1791 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2006 :  3:09:58 PM  Show Profile
Don't forget that the film strip was burned in half so it would have been even less than a copy of the code trigger.

"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935
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