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Triviachamp
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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 Posted - 03/22/2007 : 3:17:45 PM
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Originally posted by zombiewhacker
I just looked up Watch on the Rhine. It was written for the screen by Dashiell Hammett (who may have been a communist at one time, too, I don't recall), based on a play by Hellman. That being said, I agree, that doesn't necessarily mean the movie was Stalinist. After all, Hellman wrote These Three, a great '30s movie loosely based on her play The Children's Hour, and that movie had no discernible political content whatsoever.
Dashiell Hammett was her lover (he based Nora Charles on her apparently) and I believe he was a Stalinist as well. Watch on the Rhine probably doesn't have much Communist propaganda but for folks like Hellman and Hammett the only reason they supported the war and hated the Nazis was because they were attacking Stalin. So I am suspicious of their "patriotic" and "antifascist" movies.
She also wrote The North Star. Now that is some Stalinist Propaganda! |
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twitterpate
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Canada
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Posted - 03/30/2007 : 8:37:44 PM
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Yes, all those "good guy" socialist/communists were quite happy to say that Hitler was, if not another "good guy", a step up from scum like Chamberlain and Roosevelt, at least until Hitler attacked THEIR side. Then he suddenly became the Devil incarnate in their eyes. (Actually, he went from Devil to OK Chum to Devil in their eyes, depending who he was attacking at the time. The radical left in those days was never plagued by a foolish consistency.)
The partition of Poland was accepted quite happily by most leftwingers, until Hitler decided to he wanted all of it, and Russia besides. |
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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Israel
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Posted - 04/01/2007 : 10:46:55 AM
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Originally posted by zombiewhacker
After all, Hellman wrote These Three, a great '30s movie loosely based on her play The Children's Hour, and that movie had no discernible political content whatsoever.
As Pauline Kael pointed out, the RICH old lady is the VILLIANESS. |
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 04/02/2007 : 10:33:07 PM
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| Wrong. The villainess of the film is a devilish little girl played by Bonita Granville. The old woman who meddles in the affairs of Miriam Hopkins et al does so based on lies spread by Granville. When the old woman realizes her mistake at the film's end, she apologizes for what she's done. |
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 04/03/2007 : 4:13:33 PM
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Many audiences CHEERED when Margret Hamilton slapped Bonita near the end of These Three. BUt the movie wasn't that great when you read a summary of The Childrens' Hour, especially the silly "happy ending" stuck on to the end of the movie.
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935 |
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