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Ericb
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Posted - 04/08/2008 :  07:18:35 AM  Show Profile
not that anyone here was expecting it to be good. The screenplay is out and, well, who exactly is going to want to see this film? As someone who really dislikes the Bush presidency (I don't know the guy personally so I won't say I dislike him) I'm going try to forget all about him on January 20, 2009.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080408/film_nm/bush_dc;_ylt=AsL8Rb3fXI3ooE4SWB9Kl5FxFb8C

ps. I didn't want to start a whole new thread but I couldn't find the older thread on this.

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Capt. Nemo
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Posted - 04/08/2008 :  2:26:26 PM  Show Profile
I posted this on another link. But that link was running out of gas. So here it is again.

I have to wonder if Oliver Stone knows John Landis. The fantasy I have is that Stone and Landis were at a social function and Ollie started having withdrawals from whatever he is on these days. Short on walking around money, he starts picking pockets and he dips Landis. Instead of money, he gets a memory stick drive. After going home and taking care of his pharmaceutical needs, he looks on drive and sees a script that Landis put together long ago. It’s a sequel to one of Landis’ greatest movies Animal House 2: Blutto’s Rise to Power. Landis might have already made it if John Belushi hadn’t kicked off. Stone, still zonked on whatever he took, sees similarities with the Bush he envisions and writes in the names for Bush and his cabinet.

Think I'm crazy? Read some of the details that have recently come out:

…after Dubya drains a pint of Wild Turkey and runs over a pile of trashcans while driving home, his angry father tells him to call Alcoholics Anonymous, prompting Dubya to sarcastically deride his dad as "Mr. Perfect. Mr. War Hero. Mr F-- God Almighty."

In one scene, Bush practices his parachute landing in the White House pool but forgets to properly release the harness and sinks to the bottom.

During the planning of the war, Bush and his top advisers are shown locking the war-wary Powell out of a room, erupting into laughter when they finally let him in.

And he compares the troops' ordeal in the deserts of Iraq to his ability to run in 100-degree heat. At one point, Bush describes giving up sweets as "my personal sacrifice to show support for our troops."

Soon after a disastrous news conference in April 2004, Bush retreats to the White House den to watch a Texas Rangers game in the final scene of the script.


[url="http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Vote2008/story?id=4563558&page=1"]Click here for the ABC news article.[/url]

Okay, enough fun.

Reading some of the details, one word came to mind: BLOATED!

The movie wants to cover Bush’s life from college to present. The thrust of the movie is that Bush has a competitive streak with his father. This might be a good premise. But Ollie wants to explore Bush’s more lackadaisical side.

This was definitely a problem with the movie Nixon. I don't know why Stone thought a near-death experience and a B.S. session with Chairman Mao were necessary in that film.

Not to mention he'll indulge in every paranoid fantasy that strikes him during brainstorming sessions drug induced hallucinations.

But all might not be lost. If he ends the film with a headless mannequin being thrown out the second story White House window to the tunes of "Louie, Louie,"* and having it land at John McCain's feet then I'll pony up the dough to go see it.

*"Louie, Louie" inspired a fruitless investigation over whether or not it was 'indecent.' After a multi-million dollar investigation and hundreds of man hours, the results were inconclusive. How fitting.

Since typing that, another article came out. I'm now wondering how on the money I was.

"It leaves you with the impression that the White House is run as a fraternity house with no reverence for hierarchy, the office itself or for the implications of policy," said Robert Draper, author of "Dead Certain: The Presidency of George Bush."

[url="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i1155cb8195120add876286155ef704a6"]Hollywood Reporter[/url]

But all these articles make the prediction that the controversy can only help the movie. I kind of wonder about that. When Stone made JFK back in the day, controversy indeed helped him immensely. But that was before the Internet and a during a time when the big news media cashed in on the controversies themselves but doing "specials" and other "in depth investigations"(actually tabloid fodder). And they put every freak with a conspiracy theory on television to give their ideas about what to think about Stone's film.

But in this era. Stone has the problem of people getting ahead of him and heading off what he plans to do with the film. Even Michael Moore knew he needed to keep tight lipped and not give anyone the opportunity to get ahead of him. And even if he is able to keep security, people can go home log in to their computer and find out if he is telling the truth. Imagine if right after walking out of JFK you could go home and read the JFK 100.

[url="http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100menu.html"]Click here to read the JFK 100.[/url]

It would diminish the punch.

And lastly, with a 20% approvial rating. Plus all the politicial sensitivities that Bush has offended on both the right and the left, people might not be eager to rush out and pay their $10 for a ticket.

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