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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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 Posted - 10/22/2005 : 03:41:11 AM
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I enjoy lurking at Digital Dream Door. Their Top 100 Music Lists are a big help whenever I'm looking for CD buying suggestions.
However... their top movie choices are another matter. Good thing I already know a thing or two about sci-fi and cult films; otherwise, these guys would definitely be steering me in the wrong direction.
Just check out some of the readers' picks for "100 Greatest Sci-Fi Films":
[url]http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/movie-pages/movie_sci-fi.html[/url]
3. Star Trek: the Motion Picture
7. Dune
17. Star Wars Episode 2: Attack of the Clones
26. Stargate
32. The Abyss
45. Star Trek: Insurrection
50. Star Trek: The Final Frontier !!!!!!
55. Species
58. Lifeforce
59. Alien Resurrection
71. Lost in Space
81. Ghosts of Mars
100. Plan 9 From Outer Space!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And be sure to scroll down further for their list of Greatest Futuristic Sci-Films. Logan's Run ranks at #4!
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2005 : 04:01:51 AM
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| I'll probably be a John Carpenter fan 'til my last days on this world, but Ghosts of Mars isn't exactly his best effort either. |
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TheFoywonder
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
833 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2005 : 04:05:21 AM
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44. Men in Black II - (2002) (Will Smith, Tommy Lee Jones)
53. Dark Planet - (1997) (Michael York, Paul Mercurio)
54. Scorpio One - (1998) (Robert Carradine, Jeff Speakerman)
60. Moon 44 - (1990) (Michael Pare, Malcolm McDowell)
66. Supernova - (2000) (James Spader, Lou Diamond Phillips, Angela Bassett)
71. Lost In Space - (1998) (Gary Oldman, William Hurt)
72. Not of This Earth - (1995) (Michael York, Parker Stevenson)
75. First Encounter - (1998) (Roddy Piper, Trevor Goddard)
77. Alien Intruder - (1992) (Billy Dee Williams, Maxwell Caulfield)
82. New Eden - (1994) (Stephen Baldwin, Lisa Bonet)
85. Sphere - (1998) (Dustin Hoffman, Samuel L. Jackson)
91. Dark Universe - (1993) (Blake Pickett, Cherie Scott)
92. Soldier - (1998) (Kurt Russell, Gary Busy)
93. Zardoz - (1974) (Sean Connery, Charlotte Rampling)
Even if they are far down on the list, the fact that someone compiled a list of what they believe to be the 100 greatest sci-fi films of all time and actually found room on the list for any of these tells me the person making the list either has horrendous taste or is just trying to mess with readers. Either way, there's really no point getting riled up because the list has already cancelled itself out.
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Plus: B-WARE THE BLOG is alive at http://www.livejournal.com/users/foywonder |
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Mr. Blue
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Papua New Guinea
648 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2005 : 04:20:59 AM
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Try the Future Earth/Time Travel list.
THX 1138 (#3) over A Clockwork Orange (#10)?
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Demolition Man (#17), The Running Man (#18) and Judge Dredd (#27) over Mad Max (#29)?
They have to be kidding, right?
"Because, as we all know, when it comes to saving the world, no-one gets the job done quite like a bunch of sleazy, drunken, irresponsible morons."-Lyz of AYCYAS |
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Victoria Silverwolf
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
USA
80 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2005 : 06:08:34 AM
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This list seems to really be "Name Some Science Fiction Movies, Quick!"
I note that Dune is also on this site's list of "The 100 Worst Films."
You can't have it both ways, folks!
Reality is a crutch for people who can't face up to science fiction. |
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GalahadPC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
380 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2005 : 11:44:25 AM
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Consider this: What Planet Are You From? is the #5 sci-fi comedy, while Galaxy Quest isn't even on the list at all! Is it more likely that readers never submitted its name, or that the webmasters slapped together a hasty list of choices and then polled the readers on their favorites?
In the latter case, I wouldn't be surprised if the same name ended up on both the best and worst lists, especially if they had two different people putting together their own sets of selections for each of the polls, and they each had a hard time coming up with enough names in the first place. |
Edited by - GalahadPC on 10/22/2005 11:45:26 AM |
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Bobby-G
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
904 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2005 : 1:11:59 PM
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Noticed right off the bat:
13. DARK STAR (1974)(Kiefer Sutherland, Rufus Sewell)
Dang -- they can't even get what movie they're listing straight!Do they mean DARK CITY (1998)(which stars Sutherland & Sewell), or the Carpenter/O'Bannon DARK STAR?
Well, once more we have a "best of" list that appears to have been assembled by a team of Chimps banging away at typewriters.
Did see a notice (On the some elevators downtown, there are little screens with some kind of Internet headlines)that Premier Magazine has a list of "Most Shocking Moments In Film History" and has THE CRYING GAME as #1 -- well, I did find it surprising the first time I saw the movie, but was the "Shocking Moment" in THE CRYING GAME more shocking to it's original audiences than those in PSYCHO(1960), FRANKENSTEIN (1931)or PHANTOM OF THE OPERA(1925)?
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Edited by - Bobby-G on 10/22/2005 1:13:11 PM |
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1791 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2005 : 3:32:53 PM
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I've noticed that these recent "best of" lists are made up of stuff the CURRENT generation would be familior with. So I tend to ignore them because it would be like asking a magizine called "Rap Monthly" to list the "greatest musicians of the Twentieth century".
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935 |
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RVHorror
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
532 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2005 : 10:03:47 PM
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| These sorts of lists can be fun, but they're really more useful as a guide to the compiler(s) than to the subject at hand. Remember how pretty much everyone disagreed with the AFI's lists of a few years back? And how the psychoanalisis started almost immediately "Well, obviously the people voting prefer mistaken-identity comedies rather than verbal wit" and so on. |
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1475 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2005 : 01:49:18 AM
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| One thing jumping out at me is that apparently Digital Dream Door voters don't think superhero films qualify as science fiction. There's not a Spider-Man to be found. No Superman films, either. And if the X-Men films don't deserve to be filed under the heading of "sci-fi", I don't know what does. |
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John Nowak
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1017 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 08:23:52 AM
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Originally posted by Bobby-G
Did see a notice (On the some elevators downtown, there are little screens with some kind of Internet headlines)that Premier Magazine has a list of "Most Shocking Moments In Film History" and has THE CRYING GAME as #1 -- well, I did find it surprising the first time I saw the movie, but was the "Shocking Moment" in THE CRYING GAME more shocking to it's original audiences than those in PSYCHO(1960), FRANKENSTEIN (1931)or PHANTOM OF THE OPERA(1925)?
That's what's makes these list annoying sometimes. Personally, I slap a ten-film error bar on either side and see if it still makes sense.
But yeah, I can't imagine putting any of the Star Trek films apart from #2 within howitzer range of Top 10.
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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
644 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 10:17:59 AM
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8. Silent Running
This film is Jabootu worthy as it falls in the category of a "Message Film." Also, the music will make blood run from every orifice of your body. About the only thing respectable in the film are the FX.
Just a couple of high points in the film:
1. The botanist (Bruce Dern) has to refer to books figure out that the plants need light to live.
2. The ships are out by Saturn. There isn't much light out there anyways.
3. Dern acts so pyschotic from the start that I wouldn't believe anything he said either.
4. Mankind has obviously solved the major social problems, but destroyed nature. It would be an interesting trade-off to discuss, but Dern offers nothing by demented behavior.
5. The slowest pool table setup robot in the universe.
10. The Fifth Element
Mmm, someone was high, right?
The ROPe gives you three options, convert, submit, or die. There is a fourth, resist. |
Edited by - Terrahawk on 10/24/2005 10:18:27 AM |
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Culfy
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
United Kingdom
113 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 1:14:32 PM
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Science fiction cinema seems to be generally misunderstood. I remember once, a British tv channel promised a season of 'Sci-Fi film classics'. What was their starting film? 2001 A Space Oddysey? Forbidden Planet? The Incredible Shrinking Man?
Nope
Buck Rogers in the 25th century.
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Culfy
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
United Kingdom
113 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 1:18:14 PM
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Originally posted by Bobby-G
Did see a notice (On the some elevators downtown, there are little screens with some kind of Internet headlines)that Premier Magazine has a list of "Most Shocking Moments In Film History" and has THE CRYING GAME as #1
Rob
Or, in other words, lets give away the twists in films for those unfortunates left to see them. My girlfriend's enjoyment of Don't Look Now was spoilt by one of these lists.
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Atomic Glee
Archdeacon of Jabootu
USA
24 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2005 : 01:41:57 AM
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Originally posted by Terrahawk
8. Silent Running
This film is Jabootu worthy as it falls in the category of a "Message Film." Also, the music will make blood run from every orifice of your body. About the only thing respectable in the film are the FX.
Just a couple of high points in the film:
1. The botanist (Bruce Dern) has to refer to books figure out that the plants need light to live.
2. The ships are out by Saturn. There isn't much light out there anyways.
3. Dern acts so pyschotic from the start that I wouldn't believe anything he said either.
4. Mankind has obviously solved the major social problems, but destroyed nature. It would be an interesting trade-off to discuss, but Dern offers nothing by demented behavior.
5. The slowest pool table setup robot in the universe.
Silent Running is painful. I haven't seen it in a while, so I can almost forget some of it. Almost. Then, I remember that awful Joan Baez song...
James Lileks saw it recently, wrote about it on his Bleat: http://www.lileks.com/bleats/archive/05/0805/082405.html
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It contains two near-fatal doses of Joan Baez, each of which contain such concentrated hippieness you could soak it in vat of Curtis LeMay’s urine and it would never dissolve. The worst offender is one of those “teach your children” songs the era specialized in, although the specifics were usually rather scant – teach them about dirt, and the harvest, and the Circle of Healing, and the rest of the pagan jump-around-under-the-moon drivel the early 70s posited as a replacement for the current civilization.
...Found the lyrics for the Baez harvest / kid number. And I am utterly dismayed to find that I have the soundtrack, too.
Heels of children running wild in the sun
like a forest is your child growing wild in the sun
Doomed in his innocence in the sun.
Gather your children to your side in the sun
tell them all they love will die, tell them why, in the sun
tell them it's not too late for today one by one
tell them to harvest and rejoice --- in the sun.
Gather round, kids! It’s time to tell you that everything DIES!
Daddy, why are you dressed as a clown?
Because the CLOWN KNOWS WHY! Why you’ll DIE! Now everyone put on these little robot costumes and waddle around while Auntie Joan sings the Harvest Sacrifice Song. DANCE!
I forget if it ever gave an explanation, but I recall that Dern was supposed to jettison the forest pods and then nuke them. WHY? What possible purpose could that serve? To prove how EEEEVIL and anti-tree we'd become? Makes my head hurt.
Kevin Buchanan
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Edited by - Atomic Glee on 10/25/2005 01:43:44 AM |
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Bobby-G
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
904 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2005 : 03:20:40 AM
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I've got this on DVD --- I remember seeing SILENT RUNNING when I was a kid (During the opening sequence, as you follow along with a snail, there is music playing -- my dad said something like "Ack -- Acid Rock..." and instantly dismissed the film (not sure if the music is really "acid rock" though). I remember I found it sooooo depressing as a kid! There are things I like about the film; Dern does give a good performance and the robot drones are kind of cool. Still depressing, though!
Rob |
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