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Prankster
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Canada
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 Posted - 03/03/2006 : 01:55:40 AM
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I know many people who are going to flip out if Crash wins. I haven't seen it, but "Sanctimonious" is a commonly used word in many reviews (something that Brokeback studiously avoids). Also, I really didn't like "Million Dollar Baby", which was quite hamfisted, so I can't be too upset if Haggis doesn't win this year.
I like Tommy Lee Jones and thought he was great in The Fugitive (though I confess I hadn't seen him in much before that), but I have to admit that DiCaprio probably should have taken it. That was probably the only non-embarassing performance as a mentally challenged man in the history of cinema.
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Gristle McThornbody
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Germany
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Posted - 03/03/2006 : 02:06:11 AM
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I used to watch the Oscars, and argue about who won or didn't win. That ended when Naomi Watts didn't even get a nomination for 'Mulholland Dr'. The fact that such an amazing performance wasn't even worth a nomination permanently tainted the Oscars for me.
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2006 : 03:39:29 AM
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Originally posted by Triviachamp
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Originally posted by zombiewhacker
Triviachamp: by split I mean this. Midnight Cowboy had two terrific performances by Dustin Hoffman and Jon Voight.
But Paul Giamatti is not competing with a costar. Nor did Tommy Lee Jones.
My point (sigh) is that if a leading nominee has no competition, he has it cold. He has one competitor: more difficult. Two competitors: they could split the vote any which way, and anything was possible. If Dustin Hoffman had only Voight to run against and no Duke, Hoffman likely would have won. Voight and the Duke made it more difficult. (Just like Hoffman and the Duke made it more difficult for Voight.)
Anyway, irrevelant, because all the smart money seems to be on Giamatti. |
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Triviachamp
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 03/03/2006 : 12:50:12 PM
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Originally posted by Prankster
I know many people who are going to flip out if Crash wins.
I know I'll flip out because it would probably be the biggest upset ever. There is no precedent for Crash winning. Where is this Crash support coming from? I think people are bored and want the inevitable Brokeback coronation to be "exciting."
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Anyway, irrevelant, because all the smart money seems to be on Giamatti.
A lot of the smart money seems to be on Clooney actually. But the only thing he won is the Golden Globe and that is because he is a Star and the Golden Globes love to award them.
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2006 : 7:09:26 PM
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Originally posted by Prankster
I know many people who are going to flip out if Crash wins. I haven't seen it, but "Sanctimonious" is a commonly used word in many reviews (something that Brokeback studiously avoids). Also, I really didn't like "Million Dollar Baby", which was quite hamfisted, so I can't be too upset if Haggis doesn't win this year.
One guaranteed flip-out here, Prankster. Sanctimonious is an understandment for this thing. It's the only one of the noms I've seen, and its inclusion alone is enough to rob the others of any credibility they might have. |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 03/04/2006 : 01:31:42 AM
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I just want to state for the record that in all my years of consuming oxygen on this planet, never have I given less of a cr@p about the Academy Awards (tm) than this year. It's all a giant apology for recognizing a popular movie last year. It's the emperor's new films.
Well, except for Wallace And Grommit- even Hollywood has to screw up and recognize actual brilliance occasionally. (Watch it lose now *lol*) |
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Triviachamp
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 03/04/2006 : 2:59:08 PM
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Originally posted by Sardu
It's all a giant apology for recognizing a popular movie last year.
Million Dollar Baby was not exactly a whole lot more popular than Brokeback Mountain.
And of course thirty years ago everyone would be bitching about The Sting, The Godfather and Rocky winning over some foreign arthouse movie. |
Edited by - Triviachamp on 03/04/2006 3:00:58 PM |
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Triviachamp
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 03/04/2006 : 3:16:38 PM
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Hmm....
http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/#COLUMN2
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Maxim critic Pete Hammond gets around a lot, and what he said the other day put the fear of God into this Brokeback Mountain supporter like nothing else:.
"I keep talking to Academy voters, and whatever [Best Picture] nominee they voted for, it wasn't Brokeback Mountain," Hammond observed. "So either I'm talking to the wrong voters or there's more of a horserace going on.
But it doesn't look as if everyone has voted for Crash. So this is not that great.
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TheFoywonder
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2006 : 7:40:14 PM
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Trivia, I don't think too many people would have been complaining about THE GODFATHER winning best picture compared to the other two you mentioned.
The ultimate irony in CRASH winning would be after all the ballyhoo by right wing pundits about the leftist political nature perceived in this year's Best Picture nominations, they'd probably all but celebrate BROKEBACK not winning, in the process failing to realize that the film that did win was the one film that wore it's ideology on its sleeves more than any of the other films nominated.
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tam1MI
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2006 : 9:53:39 PM
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Originally posted by Triviachamp
Hmm....
http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/#COLUMN2
In addition, there's this:
http://www.prospect.org/weblog/
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... in-the-know types have been reporting that all the momentum in the last few weeks has been behind the once-darkhorse Crash and that it's now close to an even-money race between it and Brokeback Mountain for Best Picture.
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Triviachamp
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 03/04/2006 : 10:10:55 PM
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Of course there are always stories like this every year. And the guy never said that everyone voted for Crash. Even if the race is a lot closer than what people expected that doesn't necessarily mean that Crash will win (see Cabaret, Traffic and The Pianist).
Anyway as I said before Brokeback has won everything. It has suffered no major snubs. On the other hand Crash has not won in any major upsets or received any suprising nominations.
Crash has no Globe picture nod. Only the Sting has won in such circumstances. Every film that was won the Globe, DGA and has the most noms has won the Oscar. Every film that has won the DGA, PGA and WGA has won all three at the Oscars.
Oh and Crash won nothing at the Globes and did not win the DGA. No BP winner has won under these circumstances.
Oh and here are th five people predicting Crash to Win:
http://www.oscarcentral.com/2006/pre_others.html |
Edited by - Triviachamp on 03/04/2006 10:50:46 PM |
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Triviachamp
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 03/04/2006 : 10:24:11 PM
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Originally posted by TheFoywonder
The ultimate irony in CRASH winning would be after all the ballyhoo by right wing pundits about the leftist political nature perceived in this year's Best Picture nominations, they'd probably all but celebrate BROKEBACK not winning, in the process failing to realize that the film that did win was the one film that wore it's ideology on its sleeves more than any of the other films nominated.
Or after all the ballyhoo about the lack of popular films they snub the only nominee that will have a gross in the Top 25 of 2005. So far in AMPAS history I don't believe they have ever chosen a film whose gross would put it below that number. |
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Prankster
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Canada
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Posted - 03/05/2006 : 02:09:39 AM
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Originally posted by Triviachamp
And of course thirty years ago everyone would be bitching about The Sting, The Godfather and Rocky winning over some foreign arthouse movie.
Oh come ON. At least pick three equivalent movies. "Rocky" sucks, "The Sting" is quite good, "The Godfather" is a masterpiece.
There were more truly great mainstream movies made in the 70s than there are today. That's not addle-pated nostalgia. I'm not saying there aren't plenty of good films made these days (although 2005 was a pretty limp year in general). I'm saying the mainstream audience, or at least the big studios, were more adventurous back then. Things weren't as polarized into "arthouse" and "blockbuster".
Though, looking at the lineup for this year (which I think is quite promising), 2006 may prove that statement incorrect.
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Triviachamp
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 03/05/2006 : 1:12:12 PM
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Originally posted by Prankster
Oh come ON. At least pick three equivalent movies. "Rocky" sucks, "The Sting" is quite good, "The Godfather" is a masterpiece.
Well the quality of wasn't what I had in mind. People would have bitched about the Academy awarding hugely popular movies as supposed to lower grossing fare. This is the exact opposite of what people are saying now and that really annoys me.
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2006 : 10:43:32 PM
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I just checked the news. They're calling Crash "the best movie of the year."
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