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Triviachamp
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Posted - 03/05/2006 : 10:47:59 PM
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I was wrong about Crash, Jesus H, Christ. This will not go over well. I'm still in shock.
Best Motion Picture of the Year Winner: Crash (2004) - Paul Haggis, Cathy Schulman
Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role Winner: Philip Seymour Hoffman for Capote (2005)
Best Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role Winner: Reese Witherspoon for Walk the Line (2005)
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role Winner: George Clooney for Syriana (2005)
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role Winner: Rachel Weisz for The Constant Gardener (2005)
Best Achievement in Directing Winner: Ang Lee for Brokeback Mountain (2005)
Best Writing, Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen Winner: Crash (2004) - Paul Haggis, Robert Moresco
Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or Published Winner: Brokeback Mountain (2005) - Larry McMurtry, Diana Ossana
Best Achievement in Cinematography Winner: Memoirs of a Geisha (2005) - Dion Beebe
Best Achievement in Editing Winner: Crash (2004) - Hughes Winborne
Best Achievement in Art Direction Winner: Memoirs of a Geisha (2005) - John Myhre, Gretchen Rau
Best Achievement in Costume Design Winner: Memoirs of a Geisha (2005) - Colleen Atwood
Best Achievement in Music Written for Motion Pictures, Original Score Winner: Brokeback Mountain (2005) - Gustavo Santaolalla
Best Achievement in Music Written for Motion Pictures, Original Song Winner: Hustle & Flow (2005) - Jordan Houston, Cedric Coleman, Paul Beauregard("It's Hard Out Here For a Pimp")
Best Achievement in Makeup Winner: The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005) - Howard Berger, Tami Lane
Best Achievement in Sound Winner: King Kong (2005) - Christopher Boyes, Michael Semanick, Michael Hedges, Hammond Peek
Best Achievement in Sound Editing Winner: King Kong (2005) - Mike Hopkins, Ethan Van der Ryn
Best Achievement in Visual Effects Winner: King Kong (2005) - Joe Letteri, Brian Van't Hul, Christian Rivers, Richard Taylor
Best Animated Feature Film of the Year Winner: Wallace & Gromit in The Curse of the Were-Rabbit (2005) - Steve Box, Nick Park
Best Foreign Language Film of the Year Winner: Tsotsi (2005) - Gavin Hood(South Africa)
Best Documentary, Features Winner: Marche de l'empereur, La (2005) - Luc Jacquet, Yves Darondeau
Best Documentary, Short Subjects Winner: A Note of Triumph: The Golden Age of Norman Corwin (2005) - Corinne Marrinan, Eric Simonson
Best Short Film, Animated Winner: The Moon and the Son (2005) - John Canemaker, Peggy Stern
Best Short Film, Live Action Winner: Six Shooter (2005) - Martin McDonagh |
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2006 : 11:10:47 PM
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| Triviachamp, look at my message in the "we-pick-who-should-win" folder. Maybe they'll redeem themselves someday -- maybe. But the Academy Awards just showed how worthless they are, in my book. Whutta crocka $#(%! |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
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Posted - 03/05/2006 : 11:22:54 PM
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quote: Originally posted by BradH812
But the Academy Awards just showed how worthless they are, in my book.
Seriously, just now??
The whole thing is nothing but a self-absorbed industry bending over and sucking its own d!ck in public. |
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Triviachamp
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 12:27:39 AM
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| So do you think Brokeback lost due to homophobia of the Academy? Believe me this will be repeated again and again. |
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Freschel
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
   
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 12:46:33 AM
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Best Achievement in Directing Winner: Ang Lee for Brokeback Mountain (2005)
Looks like he's been forgiven for "The Hulk".
It's Coacoa Puffs, Bob. I have no idea why, but it fits the equation. |
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Desslar
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
  
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 04:00:34 AM
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| Best picture and screenplay for Crash is a joke. |
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RockerD
Archdeacon of Jabootu

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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 04:42:48 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Desslar
Best picture and screenplay for Crash is a joke.
Please elaborate. |
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 06:22:20 AM
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Here's the short version, Rocker. Crash is a self-righteous, sanctimonious sermon that's just calling itself a movie. Some very good actors wasted in a movie that treats its viewers like a bunch of sheep.
If I gave you the long version, I'd start foaming at the mouth. |
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 10:54:49 AM
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Better to foam at the mouth then elsewhere...
I dont CARE what the academy likes.... I prefer to watch Godzilla movies with THE ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK! I don't HAVE the same concirns as those rich yahoos, and will not worry about how they LOVE THEMSELVES! This Oscar night was another Onanistic* socio*-critical* Anal* Review*. Now , its time to drink heavily...
"Cole, stop handing Dr. Doom the Keys to the Baxter building." Brent Sienna/PvP.
"I speak 34 different languages. But gibberish is not one of them."- Danger Mouse.
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 11:21:04 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Triviachamp
So do you think Brokeback lost due to homophobia of the Academy? Believe me this will be repeated again and again.
Yes and no. While the word "homophobia" is so far absent, many journalists believe "Crash" was voted because it is the only "feelgood" film in the main category. Here goes a sample article by Kenneth Turan:
By Kenneth Turan, Times Staff Writer March 5, 2006
Sometimes you win by losing, and nothing has proved what a powerful, taboo-breaking, necessary film "Brokeback Mountain" was more than its loss Sunday night to "Crash" in the Oscar best picture category.
Despite all the magazine covers it graced, despite all the red-state theaters it made good money in, despite (or maybe because of) all the jokes late-night talk show hosts made about it, you could not take the pulse of the industry without realizing that this film made a number of people distinctly uncomfortable.
More than any other of the nominated films, "Brokeback Mountain" was the one people told me they really didn't feel like seeing, didn't really get, didn't understand the fuss over. Did I really like it, they wanted to know. Yes, I really did.
In the privacy of the voting booth, as many political candidates who've led in polls only to lose elections have found out, people are free to act out the unspoken fears and unconscious prejudices that they would never breathe to another soul, or, likely, acknowledge to themselves. And at least this year, that acting out doomed "Brokeback Mountain."
For Hollywood, as a whole laundry list of people announced from the podium Sunday night and a lengthy montage of clips tried to emphasize, is a liberal place, a place that prides itself on its progressive agenda. If this were a year when voters had no other palatable options, they might have taken a deep breath and voted for "Brokeback." This year, however, "Crash" was poised to be the spoiler.
I do not for one minute question the sincerity and integrity of the people who made "Crash," and I do not question their commitment to wanting a more equal society. But I do question the film they've made. It may be true, as producer Cathy Schulman said in accepting the Oscar for best picture, that this was "one of the most breathtaking and stunning maverick years in American history," but "Crash" is not an example of that.
I don't care how much trouble "Crash" had getting financing or getting people on board, the reality of this film, the reason it won the best picture Oscar, is that it is, at its core, a standard Hollywood movie, as manipulative and unrealistic as the day is long. And something more.
For "Crash's" biggest asset is its ability to give people a carload of those standard Hollywood satisfactions but make them think they are seeing something groundbreaking and daring. It is, in some ways, a feel-good film about racism, a film you could see and feel like a better person, a film that could make you believe that you had done your moral duty and examined your soul when in fact you were just getting your buttons pushed and your preconceptions reconfirmed.
So for people who were discomfited by "Brokeback Mountain" but wanted to be able to look themselves in the mirror and feel like they were good, productive liberals, "Crash" provided the perfect safe harbor. They could vote for it in good conscience, vote for it and feel they had made a progressive move, vote for it and not feel that there was any stain on their liberal credentials for shunning what "Brokeback" had to offer. And that's exactly what they did.
"Brokeback," it is worth noting, was in some ways the tamest of the discomforting films available to Oscar voters in various categories. Steven Spielberg's "Munich"; the Palestinian Territories' "Paradise Now," one of the best foreign language nominees; and the documentary nominee "Darwin's Nightmare" offered scenarios that truly shook up people's normal ways of seeing the world. None of them won a thing.
Hollywood, of course, is under no obligation to be a progressive force in the world. It is in the business of entertainment, in the business of making the most dollars it can. Yes, on Oscar night, it likes to pat itself on the back for the good it does in the world, but as Sunday night's ceremony proved, it is easier to congratulate yourself for a job well done in the past than actually do that job in the present. |
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Dirk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 11:41:35 AM
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I didn't watch the Oscars - I couldn't stand to watch Jon Stewart's nausea-inducing "I'm Coy, Urbane and Witty" smirk for two hours. The answers to four questions were the only reason I checked the Internet this morning: 1.) Who won Best Picture, 2.) Did Hoffman win, 3.) Did Witherspoon win, and 4.) Did Clooney win anything?
1.) Well, I'll be damned. Even Jack Nicholson looked surprised.
2.) Good.
3.) Great! Two nice, genuine people managed to get through their speeches without thanking either their oppressed ancestors or extolling their favorite political cause.
4.) DAMN, I hate George Clooney. Not because of anything he said, but because he's right about one thing - from now on he'll be "Oscar Winner George Clooney," which is as much of a sham as "Oscar Winner Keanu Reeves" or "Oscar Winner Mark Wahlberg" would be. Has the man ever changed his expression? Does he ever change his voice? Have you ever been convinced, for one moment, that this is a "character" and not "George Clooney" on the screen? How many times did we have to hear the phrase "Triple Threat George Clooney" - like he's some kind of acting/writing/directing god the likes of which we've never seen before?
Well, three out of four ain't bad. |
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Bobby-G
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 12:45:27 PM
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Well, so Mr. Turan believes that BROKEBACK didn't win "Best Picture" because Academy members were trembling in fear of honoring this super-mindblowing flick that they were SUPPOSED to vote for to prove that Hollywood is out to Change The World. Hmmm, well, whatever, ho-hum.
I think the REAL fear was to have WALLACE & GROMIT AND THE CURSE OF THE WERE-RABBIT even nominated for BEST PICTURE (instead of the "lesser" Best Animated). Thirty years from now, people will still be watching (AND being inspired by) Wallace & Gromit while these "Important" flicks will be sitting forgotten on some dusty shelf.
I'm not really familiar with Stewart's work, so I didn't really go into viewing this with any baggage about him, but I thought he did a good job of just "hosting" the show and not trying to upstage it.
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CobraCmdr
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 1:50:05 PM
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I don't agree with Stewart's politics, but I think he's funny, and I thought he did a great job as host (though none of the stars present seem to agree).
I resent the implication in Turan's (and other's) articles that if I don't like Brokeback Mountain, or don't want to see it, it's because I'm some kind of biggot. I probably wouldn't have seen this movie if it were about a man and a woman either.
Academy Awards shouldn't go to the most progressive or controversial films, they should got to the most entertaining. |
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Juniper
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 2:10:51 PM
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Movie stars famously have little sense of humor about themselves so it was painful seeing Jon go up against it. Still he gets a pass from me for the attack ads and the comment after the "message" movie montage "and none of these issues where ever a problem again". And all I have to say about The Best Picture and Original Screenplay Winner is now that "Racism Isn't Nice" has an oscar look for my screenplay "Don't Be Mean to Handicapped People" to hit theaters sometime in 2008.
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 2:12:48 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Dirk
3.) Great! Two nice, genuine people managed to get through their speeches without thanking either their oppressed ancestors or extolling their favorite political cause.
Witherspoon thanking her ancestors might have been kinda cool, since one of them was Reverend John Witherspoon, one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence.
quote: Originally posted by Dirk
4.) DAMN, I hate George Clooney. Not because of anything he said, but because he's right about one thing - from now on he'll be "Oscar Winner George Clooney," which is as much of a sham as "Oscar Winner Keanu Reeves" or "Oscar Winner Mark Wahlberg" would be. Has the man ever changed his expression? Does he ever change his voice? Have you ever been convinced, for one moment, that this is a "character" and not "George Clooney" on the screen? How many times did we have to hear the phrase "Triple Threat George Clooney" - like he's some kind of acting/writing/directing god the likes of which we've never seen before?
Actually Clooney is a very fine actor. His style is admittedly very low key, but hey, not everybody can be Johnny Depp. |
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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 3:05:30 PM
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Let me understand this, "Brokeback Mountain" was snubbed for Best Picture while the director, screenplay, etc. win Oscar's? I don't buy it. None of the films were head-and-shoulders about the rest in such a way that would guarantee victory.
The ROPe gives you three options, convert, submit, or die. There is a fourth, resist. |
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