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Jethro
Altar Boy of Jabootu
Australia
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 Posted - 05/14/2006 : 6:35:58 PM
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If anyone hasn't seen a Boll opus then you can hardly call yourself a "B" movie fan imho. Actually how much do you need to drop in the cookie jar to get the chance of enforcing misery on Ken ?
Anyways interesting development over here folks. I actually enjoyed a Boll movie. Is this due to the fact l have been happily reviewing "B" grade schlock for the past few weeks ? As one of my fellow downunder reviewers terms it; "genre entrapment" may have set in. Basically her theory is that if you see enough movies in a particular genre then you lose all ability to review on a legit basis. You start seeing goodness where none exists, due to the constant stream of Hollywood drivel you have waded through to get to the movie in question.
The Boll movie in question, "Alone in the Dark". The movie is almost unbelievable from the start; Tara Reid as a scientist with a PhD? Come on! l can suspend believe for the most inane rubbish but that was really stretching the crediability factor.
I sat through the movie and could see the plot holes, poor dialogue, bad acting levels for ever arcing higher but still found l enjoyed the movie! Even Boll's insistance on going Kung Phooey and having bullet vision didn't affect my enjoyment! By movie's end l was even able to perceive the clear rips of the Alien franchise and heaven help us "Resident Evil". But still l managed to note down a 6/10 for a Boll movie!!!!!
I may seriously need some medication, or maybe just a reviewing of "House of the Dead" will be enough to put me back on the straight and narrow. |
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CDiehl
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
361 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2006 : 7:18:27 PM
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Is there a point to this besides flogging an already long-dead horse? We're well aware of who Uwe Boll is and what he does. I get the feeling, if Ken were to write a review of one of Boll's movies, it would be a Nugget, rather than a full review. They don't seem sufficiently complex or interesting to merit the full treatment, and I don't think he could say much that hasn't been said as well or better at a dozen other sites.
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Jethro
Altar Boy of Jabootu
Australia
7 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2006 : 7:39:05 PM
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CDiehl if uninterested then don't bother reading would be my thoughts on the matter. Sorry to have taken up your time, wont happen in the future! Anyways back to some downunder sites, where we do tend to take onboard other's opinions without claiming our own as the only valid viewpoint. Flock me, no wonder this site is slow.
Ken please remove my account mate, l wont be back if this is the level of discussion around these parts. I'll leave it to the self righteous to talk amongst themselves! |
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John Nowak
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1017 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2006 : 8:11:37 PM
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As another delighted consumer of Boll's works, I'm inclined to agree that "Alone in the Dark" is a step up from "House of the Dead," and even more frightening, "BloodRayne" was an improvement over "Alone in the Dark." "BloodRayne" is almost, but not quite, an actual film.
"Alone in the Dark" could be used as a nice exercise in a film class -- "How would you fix this film?"
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RVHorror
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
532 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2006 : 06:48:20 AM
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Ken spoke about "BloodRayne" in his blog, some months back (shortly after the film opened, as I recall). As for Boll, I thought "Alone in the Dark" had some excellent visuals (there was a long tracking shot from a close-up of the villain's face to a forest full of devil dogs), but almost no sense of story-telling at all.
I think Boll has a pretty good eye, actually. But his ability to tell a story is terrible to non-existant. He'd make a good cameraman. |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1126 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2006 : 11:04:58 AM
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I think Boll has a pretty good eye, actually. But his ability to tell a story is terrible to non-existant. He'd make a good cameraman.
I dunno. I remember watching the featurette on AitD and realizing he didn't know what aspect ratio the movie was being shot in. BTW, I've always felt that it is the increased level of competence in AitD, brought on by a more professional crew, no doubt, that makes it an inferior work of art to House Of The Dead. HotD is a near perfect work of Jabootu genius.
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RVHorror
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
532 Posts |
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John Nowak
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1017 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2006 : 9:38:27 PM
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In an ideal world, Ed Wood would have been a second-unit director under some tough old filmmaker who would show him what would and wouldn't work. Boll should be a producer; the fact that he can collect enough cash to make his films is very impressive.
But still, for someone who (allegedly) loves games, he has no sense of how a fight unfolds and how maneuver works into it -- AitD has a set piece battle where the heroes set up a perimeter facing away from the enemy -- and then the enemy somehow slips outside the perimeter so they can attack it from the outside.
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Matrixprime
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 05/18/2006 : 9:52:06 PM
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Well, I may change this after I see Bloodrayne (it has Kristina Lokken in it, so its a given)....but after seeing House of the Dead and Alone in the Dark, I felt that AitD showed MASSIVE improvement over HotD. Actually, for the most part I enjoyed the film. It had its flaws, but I was entertained enough to be willing to see it again.
I've said it before about Boll....he strikes me as nothing more than a fanboy who wrote a ton of fan fiction, and then was suddenly given money.
I've also read that he had considerable problems with HotD with meddling from SEGA. From what I know of them (from interviews with executives over the years) they're pretty clueless so I don't doubt they meddled with his script a lot.
In brief: What I'd read was that he wanted a pot boiler zombie film, and they wanted funny (like Scream). He'd film, then they'd order script changes and re-shoots, but since he had editing control he'd wait until the end of day and hack out their changes, planning to refilm. He hacked out too much, ran out of time, so he did what he could and threw it out there.
It still sucked (so bad its funny), but SEGA followed a lot of japanese companies in completely missing the boat on what fans liked (such as constantly refusing to release games here because 'americans wouldn't get them' even though people were modding systems to play them). They also showed huge amounts of cluelessness by completely screwing themselves out of the game system market. The Sega CD and 32X were stupid, the saturn was a brick, and the Dreamcast was by all accounts a nightmare to program for.
I say all that to say this: from what I've seen/read, I have the impression that he was someone with NO experience who literally fell into film making. I think his first film was a horrible mess because he had no idea about studio politics or film making. I think his 2nd film (AitD) was a million times better, and had flaws that are only magnified because its a Boll film.
Now, after I see Bloodrayne, I may retract this....and I'll say the casting for Dungeon Siege is....odd (the Bandit is a king?!).
Still for what its worth, what he churns out is far superior to what shows up on Network TV or the SciFi Channel, or what Asylum, MTI Entertainment, or UFO films puts out. Faint praise to be sure, but a SciFi/Horror fan like me takes what he can get.
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1126 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2006 : 01:03:23 AM
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I'm pulling the trigger on Bloodrayne Tuesday, It's billed as a Director's Cut, so Uwe has no one to blame this time around. I fear that the contributions and labors of professional cinematographers, art directors and and editors will pretty much ruin the purity of Mr. Boll's vision anyway, but we shall see.
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TheSentinel
Archdeacon of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2006 : 6:25:36 PM
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hentai_wolf
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
139 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2006 : 8:19:07 PM
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[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L93CCSWIaa0"]Uwe Boll and his dogs do commentary[/url]
This is a few minutes of some Uwe Boll commentary from Alone in the Dark . It's pretty funny, but not enough for me to buy the movie to listen to the commentary. Even at $12. |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1126 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2006 : 8:55:32 PM
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Why the hate? BloodRayne wasn't even the worst vampire/hottie wmovie I've seen this year.
I didn't realise I had never posted back after watching the movie. Honestly, I was highly entertained. Oh, it did most verily suck, but I really had a good time watching it. It blows in that classic Ed Wood kind of way. Uwe has a vision. It's in his head, and he thinks we see it too. He's my favorite crap movie maker going right now, and I'll see anything with his name on it.
And the "My Dinner With Uwe" segment on the DVD is well worth the price of admission...
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Edited by - Sardu on 06/05/2006 8:56:13 PM |
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TheFoywonder
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
833 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2006 : 08:54:42 AM
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BOLL SUES!
Uwe Boll’s $25 million adaptation of the scantily clad vampiric video game vixen only grossed a paltry $3,591,980 in theaters worldwide according to Box Office Mojo. Even with DVD sales, that’s quite a financial chasm to overcome. Dr. Boll squarely blames the film’s failure on fledgling movie distribution company Romar, including one of the company’s founders, Billy Zane, who was also one of the co-stars of the movie.
According to today's Hollywood Report:
"The producers of BloodRayne sued their U.S. distributor Monday for allegedly failing to properly promote or distribute the action horror film. The case brought by Uwe Boll and his companies against Romar Entertainment, James Schramm and Billy Zane seeks unspecified damages in Los Angeles Superior Court for breach of contract and other claims. The suit accuses Romar of breaching the agreement by failing to ensure that the movie opened in at least 2,000 theaters, of failing to pay the plaintiffs their share of the gross proceeds and failing to use the $10 million advanced by the production company to promote and advertise the film."
I’m no lawyer so I’m not really the person to comment on such legal matters, but reports of Romar botching BloodRayne’s opening weekend were widely reported in the week following the film’s release. Whether those mistakes constitute a lawsuit is something for the courts to decide. One thing is certain; Boll will most likely be in need of another distribution company to release his epic Dungeon Siege flick later this year.
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 06/06/2006 : 11:19:28 AM
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Boll may actually have a good case but this is severely biting the hand that feeds him. No other distribution company is going to be very happy with him.
This cold get REALLY interesting, as I can see Romar making his filmmaking skills part of their defense!!!
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2006 : 1:24:56 PM
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Originally posted by hentai_wolf
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L93CCSWIaa0"]Uwe Boll and his dogs do commentary[/url]
This is a few minutes of some Uwe Boll commentary from Alone in the Dark . It's pretty funny, but not enough for me to buy the movie to listen to the commentary. Even at $12.
OMG! Those writers who bashed him on the net are right, this guy doesn't have a first language! Between the accent and his nonsensical narration, I was reminded of Golmember as played by Mike Myers. Honestly:
"See, here is our star, Jristian Schlatah. You look very toit. Yesh, toit like a toiger. Yesh Yesh Yesh." |
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