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Altair IV
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Japan
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 Posted - 04/14/2007 : 10:25:25 AM
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This is so cool. This classic Italian parody of Fantasia has just come on the Cartoon Network here (It's midnight Saturday..sorry, Sunday...now, BTW).
This is cool because I've been saying to myself recently that I need to track this one down and watch it again. Lately my mind has been wandering back to my college days, and I remember watching this movie on videotape with my friends 20 years ago. And now here it is!
Unfortunately the narration of the film is in it's original Italian, and the subtitles are all in Japanese, so it's kind of difficult to follow, but so far I've been able to understand the basics from memory, context, my modest Japanese reading ability, and the occasional comprehensible Italian word. We'll have to see if it holds up for the whole film.
By the way, according to the TV guide, the Japanese title for the movie is Neo Fantasia. I've noticed that they're not very creative in their naming of foreign films. :-)
There's no real point to this post, really. I just needed to tell someone. |
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1791 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2007 : 09:46:02 AM
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Disney spoofed Fantasia on the Timon And Pumba cartoon on TV. This was a few years ago and they may have done it to promote the new version or to poke fun at the folks doing the big projects.
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935 |
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Altair IV
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Japan
110 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2007 : 1:37:29 PM
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Oh yeah. That was good. The movie was even better than I remember it, even without fully understanding the dialog. I highly recommend it to anyone who has never seen it. It looks like I'm going to have to track down a copy for my own now.
I'm sure glad I stumbled onto it. With the often-odd title translations and the general difficulty I have following the tv schedules, I seldom know when the good stuff is coming on ahead of time. And I was particularly lucky to have caught this one just as the title came up, otherwise I might have passed it by.
But you know, it's really odd how often recently some show or movie I haven't seen in ages pops into my head, and say to myself that I should track it down and watch it, only to have it appear on tv a short time later. For example, in the last few months, Tremors, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and Murder By Death, among others, all came on within a few weeks of me reminiscing about them. It's even more surprising when you consider that I only subscribe to the basic cable service and thus get only one movie channel. If I wasn't such a skeptic, I'd almost say there was some higher power at work. :-P |
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
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Posted - 04/15/2007 : 2:58:50 PM
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RossM
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 04/16/2007 : 11:17:26 AM
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I have had the great pleasure of seeing Allegro Non Troppo in an actual movie theater and have to tell you that that guy Prisney, or whatever his name is or was, has nothing on this. The same director did an earlier short called "L'Opera" with is just as funny. Its not easy to find in the US but worth it.
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John Nowak
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 04/18/2007 : 6:58:36 PM
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There's a title I haven't heard for a while. IIRC Allegro non Troppo isn't so much a parody of Fantasia as it is another film working with the same concept.
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We've always been united in stupidity. That's why there is no hope. But, then again, when has that ever stopped us?
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Altair IV
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Japan
110 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2007 : 2:19:30 PM
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No, it's obviously a spoof of, or at least a tongue-in-cheek homage to, Fantasia. Sure, there was little in the way of direct parody, and the musical pieces have their own unique and humorous styles, but the references were obvious. The scene at the beginning where the MC has a telephone conversation with some guy from California named "Pisney" or "Brisney", or something, threatening some ridiculous legal action, certainly gives it away.
@neville:
My memory of Murder By Death was kind of like yours. It had been a long time, but I remembered that I had thought it hilarious. But when I saw it again this time, I found myself less impressed. The first half is classic, certainly, where they introduce all the famous detectives who are such spot-on parodies of the "real" detectives they resemble. But when they finally got into the actual mystery, maybe about halfway into the film, I thought it broke down quite a bit. Because actually, there really wasn't much of a mystery there at all. It was all a bunch of running around in this big crazy house encountering odd stuff that never really gets explained. And the ending "reveal" seemed too tacked on and was too confusing to make any real sense. Which maybe was what it was supposed to be like, but it left me unsatisfied. So overall, I think the strong first half was hurt a little by a weak second half.
One last thing. I could have sworn that the final scene, as I remembered it, had the leaving detectives pass up a Sherlock Holmes-type character driving the other way looking for the mansion. But the broadcast version here didn't have anything like that. Are there two different versions of this movie, or is my memory just going bad? |
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 04/19/2007 : 3:47:17 PM
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No Altair, your right, there WAS some extras scenes in that picture. I saw the extended version on the old HBO in the Seventies.
By the way, "Mrs Charleston" figured out the killer when "Mr Twain" was telling them someone was going to be murdered. So SHE should have mentioned it durring "the reviel", but Twain had refused to "discuss this with wives". (The sexist!)
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