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R. Dittmar
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Posted - 01/28/2008 :  4:35:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit R. Dittmar's Homepage
It looks like people are fleeing theaters showing Cloverfield as if they were running away from a giant monster. A nearly 70% drop probably means word of mouth is pretty poor:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

Given its small budget it looks like it will turn a profit, but it's no Alvin and the Chipmunks.

Ericb
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Posted - 01/29/2008 :  06:23:06 AM  Show Profile
or it could mean that anyone who had any inclination to see it went to see it but the film didn't have any appeal to the general population. It's like when Thomas Pynchon gets on the best seller list for a week, the fan base all runs out to buy it the first week but no one else does so it drops from the list after a week or two.

"I reserve the right to look as well as be boring." - Robert Fripp
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nshumate
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Posted - 01/29/2008 :  06:30:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit nshumate's Homepage
Or maybe -- just maybe -- no one wants to see shaky camcorders ON THE BIG SCREEN.

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zombiewhacker
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1475 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2008 :  10:20:33 AM  Show Profile
Didn't hurt Blair Witch Project.
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Ericb
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USA
648 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2008 :  10:30:33 AM  Show Profile
Well when Blair Witch Project came out the shakey camera was a bit of a novelty so it just added to the mysterious hype that movie had. It may have hurt Cloverfieldas the shakey camera thing is no longer new, just annoying. But I'm not sure it the camera thing rather than that giant monster movies just aren't that popular any more. When was the last sucessful one?

"I reserve the right to look as well as be boring." - Robert Fripp
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RossM
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427 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2008 :  11:54:48 AM  Show Profile
Blair Witch was witty and origional. It created something out of absolutely nothing. Cloverfield is just a copy. We have seen it all before.
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Food
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USA
342 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2008 :  1:17:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit Food's Homepage
**staggers out of the theater and over to the lobby garbage can**

Shakey-cam on a big screen....oooohhhh....

**VVOOMMIITT!!**
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Flangepart
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Posted - 01/29/2008 :  3:34:40 PM  Show Profile
Ah,rats!...with this thread title, I envisioned a Kaiju driveing a mutant M-1 Abrams...Drat!

Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"

"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT

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Flangepart
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Posted - 01/29/2008 :  3:37:01 PM  Show Profile
Ah,rats!...with this thread title, I envisioned a Kaiju driveing a mutant M-1 Abrams...Drat!

Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"

"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT

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Sardu
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Posted - 01/29/2008 :  5:34:59 PM  Show Profile
Friends I know that have seen it are sharply divided. You've got:

Monster movie lovers that love it
Monster movie lovers that hate it
Mainstream movie lovers that thought it was great
Mainstream Movie lovers that thought it was "meh"

I know at least one of each and there's no consensus. I'm not bothering until it hits DVD.



"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
--Tampopo
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TheFoywonder
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Posted - 01/29/2008 :  6:11:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit TheFoywonder's Homepage
"CLOVERFIELD TANKS!" is a pretty stupid headline for a thread devoted to a movie that made back its own budget and then some on its opening weekend alone. It may have had a big drop-off its second weekend but it's already done been pretty darn good for a niche film.

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zombiewhacker
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Posted - 01/29/2008 :  8:10:59 PM  Show Profile
Simple questions for those who've seen it (let's keep it spoiler free, please, 'cause I haven't):

Is it entertaining?
Are the characters likeable?
Smart dialogue or dumb?
Predictable?
People splitting up, wandering off by themselves, and dying stupidly, or do these characters actually have brains?
Scary? Awesome?
Does it have a vague, inconclusive ending like Blair Witch or does it come to a definite conclusion?

I mean, other than shakey-cam, what's the beef? Would an old school approach to this movie have worked, or was the shakey-cam the whole gimmick?
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TheFoywonder
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Posted - 01/29/2008 :  9:34:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit TheFoywonder's Homepage
Is it entertaining?

Very much so unless you're completely turned off by the camerawork.

Are the characters likeable?

They're pretty vapid but not hateable.

Smart dialogue or dumb?

A bit of both. Nothing really extraordinary about the dialogue one way or the other.

Predictable?

Not really.

People splitting up, wandering off by themselves, and dying stupidly, or do these characters actually have brains?

I'd say the problems in this department are less a case of the characters doing something stupid so much as the film stretching the credibility of certain happenings. But if you're asking if they do the typical horror movie acts of stupidity, then no. They pretty much stick together from start to finish.

Scary? Awesome?

It definitely has some intense moments. Pretty much the whole conceit of the film is that it's a Godzilla movie told from the point-of-view of the people at ground zero.

Does it have a vague, inconclusive ending like Blair Witch or does it come to a definite conclusion?

No, but it doesn't answer all your questions either.

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CDiehl
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361 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2008 :  9:53:45 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Is it entertaining?


It sure is. Even the stuff before it all hit the fan held my attention.

quote:
Are the characters likeable?


Yes. Far from perfect, but as likeable as people can be in this kind of situation.

quote:
Smart dialogue or dumb?


About as smart or dumb as real people would be under the circumstances.

quote:
Predictable?


In the sense that there are tropes that turn up, one could call it predictable. In the typical pejorative sense of things being blatantly, stupidly telegraphed, not really.

quote:
People splitting up, wandering off by themselves, and dying stupidly, or do these characters actually have brains?


Nobody does anything so blatantly stupid as the cliche "wander off into a dangerous area" but people are far from perfectly intelligent all the time.

quote:
Scary? Awesome?


I think both words apply, considering the premise of the movie.

quote:
Does it have a vague, inconclusive ending like Blair Witch or does it come to a definite conclusion?


If there's one thing that ending isn't, it's inconclusive.

You know Grand Funk, don't you? The wild, shirtless lyrics of Mark Farner? The bong-rattling bass of Mel Schacher? The ... adequate drumwork of Don Brewer?
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R. Dittmar
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420 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2008 :  05:53:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit R. Dittmar's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by TheFoywonder

"CLOVERFIELD TANKS!" is a pretty stupid headline for a thread devoted to a movie that made back its own budget and then some on its opening weekend alone. It may have had a big drop-off its second weekend but it's already done been pretty darn good for a niche film.



Now that we appear doomed to a repeat of the Clinton years, I can defend myself by saying that it depends on the meaning of the word “tanks”. (And “is” and “at” and “the” for that matter!)

There’s no question it’s a profitable movie, but it has one of the worst post-opening drops in movie history (#59):

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/drops.htm

and I’m just wondering why. There are so many outright fiascos like Gigli on this list that it’s hard to make comparisons. If we just look at the movies that made a lot of money out of the gate – Eragon and The Hulk (Uh, oh) – for example, I think we can talk about bad word of mouth sinking same. If we look at tightly tailored niche films like Saw IV, then I think you can argue for extreme front-loading. But did the makers of Cloverfield make it with the intent that it flame out spectacularly after all the Godzilla nerds saw it opening weekend? Given all the work they did marketing it, I find that unlikely. The fact that it didn’t find a broader audience must be a big disappointment to them in a way that the failure of Saw IV to go mainstream wasn’t to the makers of that “film”.
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Ericb
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
648 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2008 :  06:09:48 AM  Show Profile
OT

"Now that we appear doomed to a repeat of the Clinton years"

Oh, don't be so pessimistic. I have the feeling if the Repos nominate McCain he would beat Clinton. I know that if Hillary is the Demo nominee I'd seriously consider voting for a Republican in a presidential contest for the first time in my life.



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