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Capt. Nemo
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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 Posted - 04/01/2008 : 09:34:25 AM
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Again, I'll let Roger Ebert answer for me:
Q. I think you misunderstood Chris Tucker's racial tirade in the casino, in "Rush Hour 2.". He was being obnoxious on purpose (and doing an excellent job, I agree) to distract everyone from Jackie Chan's attempt to get inside the room that had the counterfeit plates. Perhaps you were so put-off you failed to notice. (Ginny Shook, Palm Desert, CA)
A. In a movie like "Rush Hour 2," the plot points are not--well, the point. A scene like Tucker's tirade is not necessary. There were countless other ways to distract attention, and some of them might have been funny, while his was not. Tucker could have invented some sort of odd, eccentric or peculiar behavior that did not involve accusing an innocent person of racism. It left a bad feeling in the room. I think whole riff (black guy goes ballistic with allegedly funny charges of racism) is getting stale. Chris Rock does more or less the same thing in "Jay and Silent Bob." It's time to move on.
[url="http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20010812/ANSWERMAN/108120303/1023"]Movie Answer Man[/url]
Bottom line, I STILL wish I had been in the rest room when that particular scene played out.
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"Ward, the Beaver blew up the 7-11 again."
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Edited by - Capt. Nemo on 04/01/2008 09:38:43 AM |
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niccolom
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Canada
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Posted - 04/02/2008 : 7:26:51 PM
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Pardon me for my ignorance but who the heck are Harold & Kumar?
"When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk."
Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez, aka "Tuco," aka "the Rat," aka "Ugly," aka "il Cattivo" |
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CDiehl
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 04/02/2008 : 9:24:16 PM
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Harold and Kumar are the main characters in an upcoming movie called Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay. It's a sequel to the movie Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle. That movie was about a pair of Asian-Americans (Harold's of Korean ancestry and Kumar's of Indian) who, after a bout of marijuana, get a hankering for hamburgers from White Castle, and spend the rest of the movie travelling across much of New Jersey in an effort to satisfy that craving. The sequel is mentioned in this thread because it seems to be about the characters being mistaken for terrorists and imprisoned at the aforementioned location. Some of us fear it will prove more political than humorous.
You know Grand Funk, don't you? The wild, shirtless lyrics of Mark Farner? The bong-rattling bass of Mel Schacher? The ... adequate drumwork of Don Brewer? |
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niccolom
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Canada
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 07:44:43 AM
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Originally posted by CDiehl
Harold and Kumar are the main characters in an upcoming movie called Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay. It's a sequel to the movie Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle. That movie was about a pair of Asian-Americans (Harold's of Korean ancestry and Kumar's of Indian) who, after a bout of marijuana, get a hankering for hamburgers from White Castle, and spend the rest of the movie travelling across much of New Jersey in an effort to satisfy that craving. The sequel is mentioned in this thread because it seems to be about the characters being mistaken for terrorists and imprisoned at the aforementioned location. Some of us fear it will prove more political than humorous.
You know Grand Funk, don't you? The wild, shirtless lyrics of Mark Farner? The bong-rattling bass of Mel Schacher? The ... adequate drumwork of Don Brewer?
Thanks for the update. I seem to remember reading something about it. Not exactly my type of movie which is why I didn't remember it. Ciao!
"When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk."
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Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Canada
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Posted - 04/05/2008 : 2:54:09 PM
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I presume that the audience for this movie is intended to enter the theatre already so stoned that they would laugh hysterically at my 7 year old nephew standing up and telling his knock-knock jokes*. So, whether the subtext is brilliantly satirical or disgustingly offensive may make absolutely no difference to the end box-office.
*(Sorry, nephew, but a successful knock-knock joke depends on you remembering the punchline, not getting a deer-in-the-headlights look when someone asks "Who's there?") |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 04/05/2008 : 3:25:20 PM
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I was all about stoner humor back in the day of Cheech and Chong but I think it certainly had a lot to do with my own, uh, condition back in the 70's. Now those same films are embarrassing and dated but I view them with a nostalgia that makes them fun to see anyway. Harold and Kumar was like nails on a chalkboard to me. I'm sure it's generational. It leaves me thinking "we were better at being inebriated retards just like our bands rocked better than you young punks' ever will..."
Welcome to Old Fart-hood *g*
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Capt. Nemo
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 04/05/2008 : 8:56:09 PM
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Let's move on to Ollie and his new film.
I have to wonder if Oliver Stone knows John Landis. The fantasy I have is that Stone and Landis were at a social function and Ollie started having withdrawals from whatever he is on these days. Short on walking around money, he starts picking pockets and he dips Landis. Instead of money, he gets a memory stick drive. After going home and taking care of his pharmaceutical needs, he looks on drive and sees a script that Landis put together long ago. It’s a sequel to one of Landis’ greatest movies Animal House 2: Blutto’s Rise to Power. Landis might have already made it if John Belushi hadn’t kicked off. Stone, still zonked on whatever he took, sees similarities with the Bush he envisions and writes in the names for Bush and his cabinet.
Think I'm crazy? Read some of the details that have recently come out:
…after Dubya drains a pint of Wild Turkey and runs over a pile of trashcans while driving home, his angry father tells him to call Alcoholics Anonymous, prompting Dubya to sarcastically deride his dad as "Mr. Perfect. Mr. War Hero. Mr F-- God Almighty."
In one scene, Bush practices his parachute landing in the White House pool but forgets to properly release the harness and sinks to the bottom.
During the planning of the war, Bush and his top advisers are shown locking the war-wary Powell out of a room, erupting into laughter when they finally let him in.
And he compares the troops' ordeal in the deserts of Iraq to his ability to run in 100-degree heat. At one point, Bush describes giving up sweets as "my personal sacrifice to show support for our troops."
Soon after a disastrous news conference in April 2004, Bush retreats to the White House den to watch a Texas Rangers game in the final scene of the script.
[url="http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Vote2008/story?id=4563558&page=1"]Click here for the ABC news article.[/url]
Okay, enough fun.
Reading some of the details, one word came to mind: BLOATED!
The movie wants to cover Bush’s life from college to present. The thrust of the movie is that Bush has a competative streak with his father. This might be a good premise. But Ollie wants to explore Bush’s more lackadaisical side.
This was definately a problem with the movie Nixon. I don't know why Stone thought a near-death experience and a B.S. session with Chairman Mao were nessasary in that film.
Not to mention he'll indulge in every paranoid fantasy that strikes him during brainstorming sessions drug induced hallucinations.
But all might not be lost. If he ends the film with a headless manquien being thrown out the second story White House window to the tunes of "Louie, Louie,"* and having it land at John McCain's feet then I'll pony up the dough to go see it.
*"Louie, Louie" inspired a fruitless investigation over whether or not it was 'indecent.' After a multi-million dollar investigation and hundreds of manhours, the results were inconcluisive. How fitting.
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"Ward, the Beaver blew up the 7-11 again."
"I'll have a talk with him Dear" |
Edited by - Capt. Nemo on 04/06/2008 07:43:58 AM |
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Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Canada
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Posted - 04/05/2008 : 10:40:25 PM
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| As I understand it, the eventual result of the "Louie, Louie" enquiry was that it MIGHT be subversive, but no one could understand it enough to tell, or, eventually, care. This may be similar to Stone.... |
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