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Asta Kask
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Sweden
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 Posted - 09/30/2009 : 02:25:00 AM
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...and about time. He drugged and raped a 13-year old girl. I don't care how good his movies are, there are some things that are just beyond the pale.
But a lot of people don't seem to get it.
Woody Allen, Pedro Almodovar and Martin Scorsese have all signed a petition demanding his release. First - who the f--- do you think cares what you think? Second - he drugged and raped a 13-year old girl. Doesn't that make you think twice about whether he should be imprisoned or not? Third - Woody Allen... the guy who married his stepdaughter. Now all we need is Joseph Fritzl and we have the complete set.
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/09/29/polanski.filmmakers.protest/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Sorry, a little rant there.
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nshumate
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
464 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 06:12:56 AM
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Rant all you want. I'll help.
First, the idea promulgated by the Hollywood establishment that it's somehow cruel to expect Polanski to serve the sentence for which he pled guilty is a sign of the utter moral bankruptcy of said establishment, and their wholesale and public declaration that "We are artistes -- we should not be held to the same legal and moral standards as you proles!"
Second, some of the justifications given are downright sickening, ranging from "Hasn't he suffered enough?" (this just in -- being a fugitive from justice, and the toast of Europe, is an acceptable substitute for incarceration!) to "She was 13 going on 35" (right, because "She was asking for it" is always a good excuse for drugging and sodomizing a 13-year-old).
Third, Whoopi Goldberg's rationalization that "it wasn't rape-rape" is just jaw-dropping. Even for her. Frankly, if the feminists of America don't get her booted and blacklisted from every entertainment venue in the U.S. for the rest of her natural-born life, then they will have lost any shred of moral credibility which they might still have.
Makes an interesting counterpoint to the Duke volleyball rape case? There, it was, "Assume guilt, to hell with proof." Now it's, "Proof and confession of guilt means nothing!"
Frankly, it makes me ashamed to watch movies.
Nathan Shumate
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Edited by - nshumate on 09/30/2009 06:16:23 AM |
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Ken HPoJ
Supreme Potentate
USA
1530 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 09:35:51 AM
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Gee, who would have thought that Woody Allen would sing on to this.
Best argument: Polanski has already paid for his crime because he couldn't come to Los Angeles to pick up his Oscar for The Pianist.
Hank Hill, perusing a waiting room magazine: "I'll tell you what, this Goofus fella is a dumbass."
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nshumate
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
464 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 10:29:34 AM
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And here is an article that says better everything I meant to (though it doesn't go enough into revulsion at the Polanski-defenders, if you ask me):
[url]http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/09/28/polanski_arrest/index.html[/url]
I was going to reproduce the first paragraph here, but I can't do that because it described what Polanski pled guilty to, and it goes beyond the bounds of normal decency.
Nathan Shumate
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Capt. Nemo
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
630 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 12:04:02 PM
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The only card the defenders had to play(good or bad) was the the victim doesn't care anymore. And that's the ONLY thing they had.
But what's disturbing is the over reach of the elitist communities. Its seems they want to demonize the victim or play down what he did. It stinks so bad that toilet in my house flushes every time I hear another defence.
My feelings on this? Let me quote a line from one of Roman's movies(and I'm not thinking of his nose).
"Cut it off and feed it to my goldfish."
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SPakQ7hH6I[/url]
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Food
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
342 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 6:49:17 PM
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As I understand it, the reason the victim wants this to vanish is because she doesn't want the attention.
As for Whoopi Goldberg, isn't she a "child advocate?" Un-f**kin'-believable. |
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niccolom
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Canada
118 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 7:10:19 PM
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A couple of comments;
a. Many people have mentioned that the victim wants to forget the whole episode and her feelings should be respected. I'm not sure how other countries view crimes, but here in Canada (I'm sure the U.S. is not much different) when you commit a crime its considered not a just a crime against the person but a crime against the state! That's why the indictment will read "U.S. vs Polanski." If it was here in Canada and other Commonwealth countries the indictment would be"Polanski vs Regina". So, in the long run the victims feeling are irrelevant.
b. Other posters have asked why, after all these years, the L.A. county DA is now going after Polanski , and that because of this time-lag he should be left alone. Au contraire, it appears that the DA's office has in the past tried to arrest him. However, because of various circumstances, the arrests never happened. This link has the details:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/rcmp-was-called-after-polanski-planned-calgary-trip/article1306339/ ;
c. While the artsy-intelligentsia types may be standing behind Polanski , it appears that the ordinary citizens have a different view of things. A couple of polls taken in France and Poland show that a majority of respondents think that Polanski deserves what he gets; and,
d. Finally, some personal observations. I cannot understand how people, who I assume have at least half-a-brain, can come out in Polanski's defence. I agree with nshumate post, Whoopie Goldberg's statement is just wacko; or, as a friend of mine would have called her,"crazier than a sh*t-house rat." The same goes for all the other Hollywood types. I think it just shows just how out of touch the are with reality.
Well enough said for now. Time to go to bed.
"When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk."
Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez, aka "Tuco," aka "the Rat," aka "Ugly," aka "il Cattivo" |
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1294 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 7:30:11 PM
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I lost a hell of a lot of my personal respect for Scorsese after reading this thread. As for Woody Allen and Pedro Almodovar.... screw 'em. I didn't have any respect for those two to lose.
Everything I've read tells me that the victim in this case doesn't want to pursue it because she doesn't want to relive that hell. If Polanski and his lawyers try to force her to.... Well, it'll confirm what a sick monster he is, even to those who are wearing blinders now.
Yes, I know, it's wishful thinking. If you haven't grasped what kind of person Polanski is by now, you probably never will. |
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Pip
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
333 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 11:01:11 PM
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Count me among the Polanski bounty huntresses. I just wish he could face a little Texas justice. Wouldn't it be sweet if he were Huntsville-bound? Or maybe Angola Prison Farm in Louisiana. They would know what to do with him.
But scenic San Quentin will have to do.
I'm most flabbergasted that Anne Applebaum, the wonderful author, spoke in defense of this guy. Hello?
Pip
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Asta Kask
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Sweden
263 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2009 : 01:10:46 AM
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At least Luc Besson gets out of this with his honor unscathed:
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"Prominent French figures such as film director Luc Besson said the country's politicians, including its foreign and culture ministers, shouldn't be interfering in the American judicial system's attempt to extradite director Roman Polanski from Switzerland.
"I have a 13-year-old daughter, and if she were raped I don't think that I would agree" with the French elite's position, said Besson in explaining his refusal to join the majority denouncing American "puritanism."
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hbrennan
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Philippines
1455 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2009 : 04:33:23 AM
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Seriously - he needs to be incarcerated in a Federal penitentiary - in general population. And we all know what that means for child molesters...
"...yet it hadn't destroyed his brain."
re: Charles "The Butcher" Benton (1956)
http://www.henrybrennan.com/
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Ken HPoJ
Supreme Potentate
USA
1530 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2009 : 10:36:20 AM
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Harvey Weinstein enters his impressive bid to be the biggest ass involved in this situation: "Whatever you think about the so-called crime, Polanski has served his time....This is the government of the United States not giving its word and recanting on a deal, and it is the government acting irresponsibly and criminally...Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion."
Wow...just...wow.
Hank Hill, perusing a waiting room magazine: "I'll tell you what, this Goofus fella is a dumbass."
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BT
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
USA
168 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2009 : 11:18:39 AM
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I've always found the different responses to Polanski's crime and Victor Salva's crime fascinating. Their actions, in both cases, were repugnant, and pretty much indefensible. However, Salva served his time, while Polanski fled the country. Yet, for the most part, I've seen very few references to Salva or his films that DON'T include disgusted asides to his past crimes (perhaps deservedly), but by the same token, before this recent arrest, very few people would bring up Polanski's past transgression when discussing a film of his.
I've always wondered if that was because Polanski is considered a much better director, so he deserves some sort of "pass", or if it's because Salva's crimes involved homosexuality, so it seemed less "normal" than the statutory rape of a drugged 13 year old.
As an aside, Polanski deserves everything he gets, and defending him on the basis of time passed, the Tate murders, or by pretending the crime wasn't severe, is absurd and shameful. |
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CDiehl
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
361 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2009 : 11:53:10 AM
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I love how Weinstein refers to rape, the one crime that can be argued to be worse than murder, as "the so-called crime." Yeah, an act of inhuman, dehumanizing violence is not really a crime worthy of punishment. I wonder if you'd say this if it happened to someone in your family, Harv.
I also enjoy these two sentences:
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Polanski has served his time
Yeah, he served his time by being treated like a king for over 30 years. Oh what a horrible, hellish punishment he's endured, being kept from visiting our moral cesspool of a country. Dumbass.
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Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion.
What a compassionate lot they are, forgiving the poor, misunderstood man who drugged and sodomized a child. To paraphrase Chris Rock, if Roman Polanski was a bus driver, he'd be Roman the Bus-Driving Rapist. None of these idiots would be signing petitions about him. But since he's a famous director, and she's not related to anyone famous, he can treat her like an object and get away with it.
You know Grand Funk, don't you? The wild, shirtless lyrics of Mark Farner? The bong-rattling bass of Mel Schacher? The ... adequate drumwork of Don Brewer? |
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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
644 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2009 : 4:05:08 PM
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Happily, pretty much the Left and Right agree on this. It seems to be mainly Hollywood people who are defending him. The HuffPo people are actually tearing into columnists who have posted on the site defending Polanski. Nice to know we can agree on something.
I believe Anne Applebaum's husband is the Polish foreign minister. Poland has actually protested his arrest. When the NYT is taking shots at Hollywood, you know this defense has gone too far.
Any bets on they refuse to extradite him due to fears for his safety?
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hk6909
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
651 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2009 : 7:15:43 PM
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The power of Hollywood is in your hands indeed...
Now we know what the south's gonna do again, get eaten by a huge fish. |
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