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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
644 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2009 :  04:58:43 AM  Show Profile
Ted Turner wants to run CNN and The Cartoon Network again. And he would:

quote:
As for Cartoon Network, Turner tells anchor Betty Liu, "If I had control of it, I'd put 'Captain Planet' on at a top time period so that kids would see the environmental superhero instead of just Superman."


[url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i8ecb95ad2867bbdb5d8e29af923a9a4b[/url]

We all know the type of quality programming that CP is.

I summon Bigger Fish!

TVsGrady
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USA
671 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2009 :  5:17:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit TVsGrady's Homepage
The first thing that popped into my mind upon reading that:

http://robotchicken.wikia.com/wiki/Captain_Planet

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CDiehl
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
361 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2009 :  09:16:47 AM  Show Profile
I'd like to know when one sees Superman on Cartoon Network. I'd also like to know how Turner convinced himself that anyone wants to watch boring, preachy, cheaply made crap like Captain Planet. Just for this, I'd make sure Turner never has anything to do with Cartoon Network again, because he seems determined to run it into the ground. I don't care if he runs CNN or not.

You know Grand Funk, don't you? The wild, shirtless lyrics of Mark Farner? The bong-rattling bass of Mel Schacher? The ... adequate drumwork of Don Brewer?
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
2329 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2009 :  10:50:09 AM  Show Profile
Giving Ted control of CN is like giving King Kong the keys to the banana plantation...not a good move.

"Vulcans : The designated drivers of the universe."

"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT

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The Bog Man
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu

45 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2009 :  3:13:31 PM  Show Profile  Visit The Bog Man's Homepage
Hmmm, a delusional jackass to be sure, but at least the networks weren't as blasted boring when a madman ran them.

I'd love to offer him a faustian bargain; Ted gets to run all the unwatched greenie agitprop he wants, just as long as we get Joe Bob Briggs and 100% Weird back on Friday nights. :-)


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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2009 :  4:04:16 PM  Show Profile
And TCM.

BTW, I can't help but smirk when you guys talk about Ted Turner as some kind of leftist wingnut, because here in Europe he has fame of being quite the opposite, Captain Planet notwithstanding. We all agree in that he is some kind of nut, though.
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2009 :  8:47:55 PM  Show Profile
Agreed, Nev. In truth, Ted Turner is an equal-opportunity offender. (His nickname for many years, as you probably know, is "The Mouth from the South." 'Nuff said)

Nonetheless I still give him credit for starting TCM.
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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
644 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  05:37:58 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Neville

And TCM.

BTW, I can't help but smirk when you guys talk about Ted Turner as some kind of leftist wingnut, because here in Europe he has fame of being quite the opposite, Captain Planet notwithstanding. We all agree in that he is some kind of nut, though.



He definitely is a nut but a brilliant nut at times. However, Europe tends to claim anyone who isn't to the left of Al Gore is some sort of right wing fascist. Ted is definitely on the left wing of the spectrum on most issues. He just strays to the right once in awhile, mainly where his business is concerned.

I agree that he might actually revive CN if he was in charge, even allowing for Captain Planet.



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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  07:51:18 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Terrahawk

However, Europe tends to claim anyone who isn't to the left of Al Gore is some sort of right wing fascist.




Yep. And for European standards, Americans tend to label anyone to the left of Reagan as come kind of dangerous element.

In order to understand this, you have to learn that following the end of WWII most socialist and communist parties in western Europe abandoned Moscow's guidance and joined the reconstruction efforts, becoming the left end of the political spectrum. A number of European countries have had socialist governments since then, all the time capitalism and private property remaining quite safe.

That's why we can't help but laugh when radicals call Obama a "socialist" in order to discredit him. The word here has no negative connotations whatsoever.

Returning to Turner, we don't know much of him here. At most, he's that guy in the cowboy hat that for some reason married and divorced Jane Fonda. Oh yeah, and he was in the opening ceremony of CNN+, but I can't even say if that channel has much in common with its American counterpart.

Edited by - Neville on 10/20/2009 07:53:12 AM
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
2329 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  08:00:38 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by The Bog Man

Hmmm, a delusional jackass to be sure, but at least the networks weren't as blasted boring when a madman ran them.

I'd love to offer him a faustian bargain; Ted gets to run all the unwatched greenie agitprop he wants, just as long as we get Joe Bob Briggs and 100% Weird back on Friday nights. :-)


I like it!
Joe Bob razzing the high Sherriffs...ah, those were the days.

Nev: Socialist is a negitive word here, as we are still used to having more say in what the gvernment does to us. As we lose that, we have a bad taste in our figuritive mouth, as we have a basis of comparison, Vs. those who've only know 'Royalty' as rule.


"Vulcans : The designated drivers of the universe."

"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT

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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  08:39:01 AM  Show Profile
That's not the only confusing issue, here being a "liberal" is considered a positive thing, meaning a person who believes personal freedom should be shielded from the estate. That only is staring to change now because European equivalents to "neocons" call themselves liberals, meaning they're for economical liberalism.
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  3:39:43 PM  Show Profile
OK, I think I have ir figured out now:

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/leftvright_world.html

All I have to do is to remember this all the time xD
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Pip
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
333 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2009 :  5:11:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit Pip's Homepage
"A number of European countries have had socialist governments since then, all the time capitalism and private property remaining quite safe."

LOL! The claim that capitalism remained safe is both meaningless and amusing. Of course, there's less private property to take when there's less money to buy it. The socialist slavedrivers figured out it's much easier to siphon the money from the productive before they get it than to take it away once the productive have it. What about the much higher tax rate in the more socialist countries? Liberals always pooh pooh this, as if quibbling over money is the jejune sport of selfish grinches.

Actually, money is the fruit of labor. To labor and have the resultant money subsequently stolen for socialist alms is slavery in a velvet glove. Doing "good" with other people's money is neither noble nor honest.

Hence we see the invention of handouts dressed up as "rights" with the big one being debated right now in the US the "right" to health care. (There is no right to health care.) We're I an MD, I would refuse patients who paid with government (i.e. my) money.

Pip

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Asta Kask
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Sweden
263 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2009 :  01:52:47 AM  Show Profile
Not that I disagree with you Pip, but would you refuse to treat animals for someone who worked for the government? Their paychecks are also your money?

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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2009 :  04:04:13 AM  Show Profile
To each their own, Pip. I like living in a country where the estate is not afraid to act as a safety net. And if I have to pay more taxes for it, so be it.

Hell, if it depended on me electricity and communications would still be state-owned in my country. Since they got private all you hear from them are corruption scandals, inflated bills (it's amazing how many of them contain errors in favour of the company, specially if the customers are elders) and the occasional village that is left without phone service because they're no longer profitable.

EDIT: Another example: together with phone, communications here went private in the 90s. The state's company lost its monopoly and was offering subpar Internet access even for the time. According to free market laws, everyone expected foreign and national Internet companies to make better offers and boost competition. But nope. Every single company that has entered the Internet market has preferred to keep offering subpar service at inflated prices rather than to invest in upgrading the networks and beat up the competition. Why? Because it's more profitable in the long term. Now it's the 00s, and I'm paying $40 a month for a service most European nations would find third world class, 4 Mbps download amd less than 1 Mbps upload.

I'm not against capitalism per se. I like making money and buying stuff with it. But, when it comes to services, once it becomes just about the profit the end user is screwed.

Edited by - Neville on 10/22/2009 04:38:30 AM
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Pip
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
333 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2009 :  11:51:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit Pip's Homepage
AK: Hi there. There is a difference between "socialist alms" and working for the government. (Although when I walk around the Denver Federal Center I sometimes wonder.) Paychecks for real work welcome.

Neville: Hello you. And the Spainards who *do not* want to pay for the dole? What about them? Are they welcome to leave? (We'll take 'em in Texas if so.) We used to have regulated power here in Texas and air service across the country. They deregulated it. Overall, service is cheaper. (And, in my experience, better.)

Dee Dee (<- returning us to Terrahawk's cartoon thread.)

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