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KreenWarrior
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

111 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2005 :  12:12:36 PM  Show Profile
Last night I went to the midnight showing of Doom on impulse. I believe this is the first time I've ever intentionally gone to a theater to see a movie I expected to be bad, BECAUSE it was going to be bad. Not sure, but I think that qualifies me as an official Jabootuite.

Should I seek out the nearest priest of Jabootu and be initiated by swearing a mystical oath on a copy of Plan 9 or something?

GalahadPC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
380 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2005 :  12:31:22 PM  Show Profile
I don't know either what it takes to be a fully initiated Jabootuite, but it might help if you cared to tell everybody just how bad Doom was...
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KreenWarrior
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

111 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2005 :  1:05:53 PM  Show Profile
Well, it's bad. It makes little sense, has an "elite" squad that can't deal with enemies not armed with projectiles, the Rock declaring "BFG, Big f--- ing Gun", and wanting to slaughter 20 or so people for no particularly good reason, a man getting injected with a 24th chromosome pair that makes him superhuman, as well as for some reason forcing him into a FPS PoV, and a fight where said superhuman puts down his machine gun to fight zombied-Rock barehanded after zombie-Rock had run out of ammo.

Oh, and the monsters are generic "messed up humans" that for some reason have tongues that infect people with the 24th chromosome, which for some people turns them into monster-zombies, and others into superhumans. Or something. It really doesn't make much sense.
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KreenWarrior
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

111 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2005 :  1:07:23 PM  Show Profile
I may go again and take notes so I can do a better review. My brain didn't seem to be horribly mutated by the exposure. I may have been protected by the fact that it was past midnight, though, in which case I risk my sanity by exposing myself again. Oh well.
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commodorejohn
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu

76 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2005 :  1:33:09 PM  Show Profile
Well, in all fairness, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFG9000"]that's what "BFG" stands for.[/url] But the rest of it, yeah. Baaaad.

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GalahadPC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
380 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2005 :  5:53:51 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by commodorejohn

Well, in all fairness, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFG9000"]that's what "BFG" stands for.[/url]

True enough, but it's one of those things where almost everybody in the audience knows what it means, and the few who don't probably couldn't care less, so for a character to point it out is pretty conspicuous. Did they the movie at least least try and explain it's "real" designation as Bio-Force Gun, like The Rock mentioned in that interview?

(Reminds me of the MOAB that was shown off during the early parts of the war in Iraq. Technically, it stands for "Massive Ordinance Air Blast," but reports said it was also nicknamed the "Mother Of All Bombs." My money says the military actually came up with the nickname first.)

Edited by - GalahadPC on 10/21/2005 5:58:12 PM
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KreenWarrior
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

111 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2005 :  6:46:03 PM  Show Profile
The first time it's shown, it's on a computer schematic saying "Big Force Gun".

Later, when the Rock gets the gun (in a room labeled "Advanced Weapons, which of course contains only the BFG hovering over a pillar), he picks it up, and declares "BFG. Big f--- ing Gun". It's one of those moments that's there pretty much purely for the entertainment of Doom players. Not being one, I can't say whether or not it works.
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1791 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2005 :  7:45:49 PM  Show Profile
As a footnote to a post above, the British "Grand Slam" or "earthquake bomb" used against submarine pens durring World War 2 outweighed the MOAB by 500 pounds.

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Matrixprime
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu

USA
69 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2005 :  8:25:31 PM  Show Profile
ACK!
Anyone else having trouble with the board? This is the third time I've had to create a new password; it won't accept my password several times, then it accepts it but prompts for a new one, then when i go to post it deletes my post and says my login is invalid. I even typed hunt and peck method, made sure caps lock was off, etc, etc.

Anyhoo, short short version:
I liked original game.
I hated Doom 3, both for play, graphics, and cheesy rewrite of story. Man makes pact with evil (every movie pretty much) using an ancient stargate (Stargate) to take over the galaxy (every movie pretty much).
When the movie was first announced, it was in a space station past Pluto, and it was a disease (Resident Evil, 28 Days Later)
When the trailer released, story was back on Mars and now it was bioengineering. It featured the Rock, a solid likable action star (unlike Seagal).
I had hopes.
Kreen ruined them.
Was there nothing good?

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KreenWarrior
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

111 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2005 :  10:38:17 PM  Show Profile
Eh, it's watchable, at least, I think. There's just really nothing good, and a few things that are noticeably bad.
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GalahadPC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
380 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2005 :  11:25:03 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by KreenWarrior


Later, when the Rock gets the gun (in a room labeled "Advanced Weapons, which of course contains only the BFG hovering over a pillar), he picks it up, and declares "BFG. Big f--- ing Gun". It's one of those moments that's there pretty much purely for the entertainment of Doom players. Not being one, I can't say whether or not it works.

Been a long time since I played, and I was never a rabid fan, but I'll go out on a limb and say "no, it doesn't."

"Big F---ing Gun" might be amusing when you first learn about it while you're fifteen and playing the first game. After ten years, it just plain isn't funny or interesting anymore. It might have been better to simply leave that joke out of the movie and have the weapon identified by its proper name, allowing the hardcore Doom geeks in the audience to exchange their little winks and nudges because they know what it "really" means.

Edited by - GalahadPC on 10/21/2005 11:29:23 PM
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