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kdraut
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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 Posted - 04/05/2006 : 11:23:43 AM
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Ken - kudos on surviving yet another Laughlin film. You're a stronger man than I. I'd be looking at quotes for sheetrock repair if I had to sit through that.
I do wish I had the money to fund the 2006 film though. Partly to laugh at the resulting film and partly to laugh at the ensuing threads at DU lauding the film.
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andy80
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
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Posted - 04/05/2006 : 12:07:29 PM
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Very good review.
But where do you get the under 100 hundred casulties from Chernobyl? Is that just the initial explosion? The generally agreed upon number of casulties is 3000-4000, including cancer related deaths. |
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KurtVon
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 04/07/2006 : 2:09:27 PM
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Nice review. One point though: Senator Paine does not kill himself at the end of the original. Someone announces Smith is okay, and I think a door slams at the same moment Paine passes out, but that's all he does. In fact, the original film even had Smith meeting Paine at home as a bit of closure that didn't play well with test audiences.
And to add to the theme of how the film could have been improved: I picture the Senators trying to end the filibuster by rushing the podium in martial-arts style while Billy Jack beats them off while never pausing from his delivery.
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"What's the hard way?"
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KurtVon
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
387 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2006 : 2:26:40 PM
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Originally posted by andy80
But where do you get the under 100 hundred casulties from Chernobyl? Is that just the initial explosion? The generally agreed upon number of casulties is 3000-4000, including cancer related deaths.
I guess I should ask where you got that number. Only 3 actually died of cancer. Add that to the 31 who died in the initial explosion and 14 who died of radiation poisoning. 100 was a bit generous.
The closest thing I can come up with is the WHO prediction that the people evacuated should see 3500 cases of cancer in their lifetime, but this was just the raw number, not the number attributable to the accident (or even deaths -- not all cancer is fatal). Considering the frequency of cancer in the general population and the huge population of the affected areas, this isn't a measurable increase.
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"The easy way to tell is monkeys have a tail and apes don't."
"What's the hard way?"
-- Actual conversation with my daughter
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 04/07/2006 : 4:12:45 PM
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Originally posted by KurtVon
And to add to the theme of how the film could have been improved: I picture the Senators trying to end the filibuster by rushing the podium in martial-arts style while Billy Jack beats them off while never pausing from his delivery.
And then the Senators bring out their final secret weapon: A horde of remote-mind-controlled ninja monkeys. On rollerskates. And Billy kicks their butts with wire-fu! Sweet!!
(Yes, I have a thing about ninja monkeys on rollerskates. *g*)
Coming soon-
Eraserhead: The Musical!! |
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John Doe
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2006 : 4:16:43 PM
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Thank you for the review.
So in the entire movie Billy beats up 3 people and a coffee table?
No wonder it tanked.
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Wanderer
Altar Boy of Jabootu
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Posted - 04/08/2006 : 02:27:57 AM
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Australians!
"Billy Jack Goes To Washington" will be showing on Channel 9 at 2am tonight! |
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Desslar
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
USA
51 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2006 : 03:00:29 AM
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| Not even Seagal is clueless enough to make a film in which he only has one fight. Or is he? |
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 04/08/2006 : 04:33:41 AM
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From Ken's review:
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The argument seems to be, “He’d be a tremendous electoral draw for the party, but one who couldn’t possibly himself be elected to office?” Huh?
Isn't that how Howard Dean got his job? |
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andy80
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
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Posted - 04/09/2006 : 04:35:07 AM
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Originally posted by KurtVon
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Originally posted by andy80
But where do you get the under 100 hundred casulties from Chernobyl? Is that just the initial explosion? The generally agreed upon number of casulties is 3000-4000, including cancer related deaths.
I guess I should ask where you got that number. Only 3 actually died of cancer. Add that to the 31 who died in the initial explosion and 14 who died of radiation poisoning. 100 was a bit generous.
The closest thing I can come up with is the WHO prediction that the people evacuated should see 3500 cases of cancer in their lifetime, but this was just the raw number, not the number attributable to the accident (or even deaths -- not all cancer is fatal). Considering the frequency of cancer in the general population and the huge population of the affected areas, this isn't a measurable increase.
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"The easy way to tell is monkeys have a tail and apes don't."
"What's the hard way?"
-- Actual conversation with my daughter
Well I got that number from the latest issue of NAtional Geographic, and another source I can't remember. After doing a bit more research, that number is almost definitely wrong. |
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Joliet Jake Blues
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
Australia
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Posted - 04/10/2006 : 07:57:59 AM
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thanks Wanderer, I watched a little bit of it during ad breaks in the rugby from SA
From the little I saw, Billy Jack had one expression - a mixture of troubled and confused. Alternatively, he looked a little mentally deficient. Heck, he looked two beers short of a six-pack. Maybe three.
How the hell did this movie happen?
"Age and guile beat youth, innocence and a bad haircut" - P.J. O'Rourke |
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Ken HPoJ
Supreme Potentate
USA
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Posted - 04/10/2006 : 09:07:24 AM
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Re: The Chernobyl numbers. After getting some mail on this a few days after the review went up (thanks to Kellie Sharp for being the first to raise the issue), I am planning to append some more info and thoughts on this matter to the review. It's probably be in the Readers' Response section following the main review.
Hopefully I'll have time for that tonight.
PEGGY: I don't see how having a girl on the team would ruin it. Did a woman judge ruin the Supreme Court?
HANK: Yes, and that woman's name was Earl Warren.
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PaulaJohnson
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 04/13/2006 : 4:49:00 PM
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I just read the review.
Holy crap. I don't know how you do it, Ken. Making fun of this movie must be like trying to staple together Jell-O, just where do you start?
I'm just going to make one factual comment, on the one point I was able to concentrate on without my eyes rolling so far back into my head that I could see my own adenoids. I think if I HADN'T focused on this, I would have gone insane from just the description of the movie.
Anyhoo, yeah, building a nuclear power plant on a fault? Flippin' heck! We have a nuclear plant here in Kansas, Wolf Creek (so reading the name of the facility in the review made me giggle), built in, I think, the early 80's (despite the release of this fine film). After 9/11, security obviously heightened around ALL of the power plants - gas turbine, coal, nuclear, all of 'em - as a result. I work for the state agency that regulates utilities for rates and safety. I was talking to one of the engineers one day, and he assured me the facility could definitely take a hit from an airplane, since it was specifically designed to withstand multiple tornadoes and any other force nature or man could whip at it.
So logically, a plant would NEVER be built on a fault, but I guess when would Billy Jack ever be constructed on logic?
Oh, and for another thing - TOTALLY different regulatory bodies for nuclear plants and nuclear weapons. Yeesh! I'd LOVE to see the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission take on warheads, but sadly, it's not to be.
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flellis
Archdeacon of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 04/18/2006 : 4:09:34 PM
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It seems that Ken didn't review the DVD commentary by Tom Laughlin and Dolores. The commentary seems to take the place around 2000. During that time, Tom remarks not about how the powers that be took away his rights to see this movie. However, there are a few comments on this film that Laughlin remarks that he was ahead of his time:
---When they pick Billy Jack for Senator, Laughlin compares it to when Sonny Bono's widow took over for the House after Sonny passed away.
---He compares the murder of McArthur to Vince Foster's suicide. Apparently, Billy Jack saw eee-vil in the Clintons as he does towards Bush.
----When Senator Payne trashes Senator Jack, Laughlin compares it to Clinton trashing Gennifer Flowers (you gotta give him points on this, Tom Laughlin at least provides to be an equal opportunist here) and when George W. Bush's campaign trashed John McCain when they ran for the Republican Party nomination. If this commentary was done in 2004, Senator Payne's trashing would be compared to the Swift Boat Veterans trashing John Kerry.
----Former ally Ralph Nader (former because Nader decided to run on his own spoiling Al Gore's chance) give him the idea of where Payne tells the reporters he won't vote for the bill but at the Senate says he will vote for the bill.
Yes, Mr. Laughlin, you were really ahead of your time then. We need that movie from you coming soon. After all, BJ goes to Washington told us all about the political events that were about to happen and now this movie is going to tell what future political events await us.
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 04/18/2006 : 5:19:56 PM
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You're SO right, Prago. Laughlin was ahead of his time. (OW! Eye rolling injury!)
Yeah, let's not tell Tommy-Boy that all those "predictions" can be found in history books published before he was even born!
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