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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2006 :  7:06:13 PM  Show Profile
I wonder how many people thought National Treasure was factually based?
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TheFoywonder
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
833 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2006 :  8:12:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit TheFoywonder's Homepage
quote:
I wonder how many people thought National Treasure was factually based?


You mean it wasn't?

What about RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK? If that wasn't true then I'm going to cry.

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Asta Kask
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Sweden
263 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2006 :  04:59:11 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by TheFoywonder

You mean it wasn't?

What about RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK? If that wasn't true then I'm going to cry.


Oh, that one was true. All Harisson Ford movies are true.

According to the Swedish review, the movie presents an entirely new mystery: "Why should I see this?" He also says it's a movie made to mock. Sounds like Jabootu was involved...

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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1126 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2006 :  12:59:18 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Asta Kask

According to the Swedish review, the movie presents an entirely new mystery: "Why should I see this?"

HA!! I'm so stealing that line. *g*

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TheFoywonder
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USA
833 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2006 :  3:06:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit TheFoywonder's Homepage
Well, so much for the power of religious boycotts and bad reviews. THE DA VINCI CODE is on par to make upwards of $80-90 million this weekend. It'll be interesting to see what it does next weekend once word of mouth has spread and X-MEN 3 annihilates the box office. One of my co-workers earlier today told me they saw it last night and "loved it, great movie". It's also doing mega business overseas, including being on the verge of breaking box office records in Italy and Mexico, both heavily Catholic nations. So if you're sick of the whole Da Vinci Code controversy from both the supporters and the detractors, well, get ready for more.

I'll probably get around to seeing it for myself later this week. With any luck this will lead to MEGIDDO: THE DA VINCI CODE PART 2 being made.

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zombiewhacker
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USA
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Posted - 05/20/2006 :  8:47:55 PM  Show Profile
It'll probably experience a huge drop-off regardless, even if word of mouth is good.

Since you bring up X-Men 3 remember that X2 had huge word of mouth yet dropped 50% the second weekend anyway.

Ironically, these days the only movies that retain their audience from week to week are those that open smaller.
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Prankster
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Canada
727 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2006 :  01:57:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit Prankster's Homepage
What I'm confused about is why, since the book has been on the best seller lists for like two years, people are only getting offended now that it's being turned into a movie.

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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1126 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2006 :  08:26:09 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Prankster

What I'm confused about is why, since the book has been on the best seller lists for like two years, people are only getting offended now that it's being turned into a movie.


Because for most people books don't exist and therefor pose no real threat. Movies are a visceral experience they can't ignore and they feel will have a much deeper sway on the opinions of society in general.

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Edited by - Sardu on 05/21/2006 08:27:44 AM
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Prankster
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Canada
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Posted - 05/22/2006 :  12:46:38 AM  Show Profile  Visit Prankster's Homepage
For most people? Most people read the book. And are you saying catholics don't read? I don't get it.

My point is, like with most religiously-oriented flaps these days, the controversy seems somewhat manufactured.

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Sardu
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1126 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2006 :  02:33:15 AM  Show Profile
I'm saying that books, even hugely successful ones like DVC simply don't have the kind of cultural impact that movies do. The book did provoke a lot of offended responses, but the fact that now you can't turn on the TV or open a magazine without being exposed to all the controversy speaks for itself. I'm not saying that's how it should be, but that's how it is. Look at LOTR. It was very successful comparatively speaking as a book, but when they made a movie Frodo wound up on a freaking Burger King box, fer cryin' out loud *lol*

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Edited by - Sardu on 05/22/2006 02:34:18 AM
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RVHorror
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USA
532 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2006 :  07:20:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit RVHorror's Homepage
It's also a question of scale. If the book sold 10 million copies, that would be a phenomenal success for a book; if the movie sold 10 million tickets, that would be close to a disaster.
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jackspencerjr
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

262 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2006 :  4:18:28 PM  Show Profile
I had seen the Da Vinci Code last night and while it is far from a horrible movie, it is an overblown one. Perhaps the most annoying aspect is all the talking, talking, talking. And that isn't even the problem. Oliver Stone's JFK was a similar talky conspiracy flick, but I enjoyed that movie. What seemed to be the problem was that Hank's character Robert Langdon was not really learning anything as the story unfolded. Some plot point would come up and he'd launch into a overlong monolog on the subject. Overlong can mean a few seconds.

Here is a minor spoilery example:



One of the characters wears a spiked cilice belt around his leg. When Langdon learns this, he says "My God. It's to make himself suffer the way Christ suffered!"

Who, I say, who talks like that? I happen to know a couple people who have a large amount of trivia in their heads that they trot out a tad too often, but I hate that and avoid talking with them about anything. They are trying to impress me. Langdon is just informing the audience... and it feels like informing the audience. It is handled clumsily. Maybe not everything needed to be explained and maybe not everything needed to be explained by him and maybe the things explained by him didn't need so much depth.

But then, this is because the book was so crumby and the movie, I am told, follows the book very closely. Dan Brown put all this information and exposition to cover up for the fact that he had a relatively thin story. For a thriller, it's not so thrilling.

If Howard and scriptwriter Avika Goldsmith had buckled down and made this movie right instead of trying too hard to remain true to the book, they might have had a first-rate thriller on their hands. Instead, it's a second-rate film adaption that looks like it should be third rate but feels fourth.
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Culfy
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

United Kingdom
113 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2006 :  5:43:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit Culfy's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by jackspencerjr

I had seen the Da Vinci Code last night and while it is far from a horrible movie, it is an overblown one.




And my own personal moan about this film, since I don't hear you ask?????











Okay, I've never fallen down a well. I do however consider myself to have enough imagination to be able to imagine what happens when you fall down a well. I imagine wells are pretty generic. So why, in Jabootu's name, did we have see a flashback of that well every single time? I mean, exactly how important was Lagdon's claustrophobia to the plot to have to embellish it with that blooming flashback?

I felt that a lot of the movie; that it just felt the need to hit you over the head with the visuals all the time.

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jackspencerjr
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

262 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2006 :  8:07:49 PM  Show Profile
True. It thought it was CSI and making use of the visual gimmick
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Juniper
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

616 Posts

Posted - 05/23/2006 :  04:55:01 AM  Show Profile
Saw it and it was a big fat pile of "mehhhhhhhhhhhh". I lay most of the blame at Oscar Winner (tm) Akiva Goldsman's feet as it takes the special brand of humorless badness behind Lost in Space to reproduce, nay add on more to the book's useless exposition, inchoerent character motivations and jumpy anxious rythms. When McKellan was onscreen there was a spark of life but he couldn't save it, and Hanks just coasted. To be fair his character had been completely gutted no longer a serious (though not fanatical) believer Hanks bore the mark of the stuido getting cold feet as his official role was to follow every statement about The Grail with "But we don't know this! It's just a theory! We Heart Jesus! Really!". And I felt the most connection and sympathy for Paul Bettany's killer albino monk. I've got no problem with something being sacreligous, I just expect it to be entertaining, like this for example
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRuAWD6LCGw&search=The%20Ten%20Things%20I%20Hate%20About%20Commandments[/url].

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