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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Israel
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 Posted - 05/21/2006 : 07:11:20 AM
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| THE NAVY VS. THE NIGHT MONSTERS was inspired by the great THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD. I have never understood Hollywood's mania for remakes. Hollywood is not only full of aspiring scriptwriters, Hollywood is full of established scriptwriters who have scripts they can't interest anybody in, yet Hollywood keeps cranking out the cruddy remakes. Why did Michael A Hooey set out to make a doomed-to-be-lousy-remake of a great film? If he wanted to film a supernatural plant yarn, what was wrong with E Nesbit's "The Pavilion" or Manly Wade Wellman"s "Come into my Parlor?" By the way, the reason I never went to see TWILIGHT ZONE: THE MOVIE is that I read the reviews and three of the stories were remakes of old "Twilight Zone" tv episodes, as if there was some kind of shortage of good American fantasy and science fiction. Also, the "new" episode is a blatant plagiarism of Theodore R. Cogswell's "You Know Willie." By the way, anybody out there who saw the TWILIGHT ZONE movie and who is familiar with "Come into my Parlor," rather than watch remakes of "Twilight Zone" episodes you've seen 50 times, wouldn't you rather have watched Barry Morse and Lou Gossett, Jr. do "Come into my Parlor?" It ranks with the greatest performances never put on screen!!!!! |
Edited by - New Hinda on 05/21/2006 07:34:15 AM
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twitterpate
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 05/23/2006 : 3:51:08 PM
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Why did Michael A Hooey set out to make a doomed-to-be-lousy-remake of a great film?
Why, why indeed?
I think someone explained the preference for remakes over original material as an example of group-think. For example, a writer pitches an original story - the suits go "But no one else has ever done this; if we go with it, and it tanks, we'll look like idiots." Someone offers the nth remake of "The Most Dangerous Game", and the suits go "Well, other people have thought this story worth doing, and sometimes it's panned out; if this one tanks, at least it's not due to the concept being stupid. So, if we end up as losers, at least we'll have company." |
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Ken HPoJ
Supreme Potentate
USA
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Posted - 05/23/2006 : 4:18:41 PM
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I think it was more forgivable back in those days, when these producers were making these low-budget, cheesy exploitation flicks, and also could amp up the sex and violence beyond what the studios were willing to do. That all changed beginning with The Exorcist and The Omen, and finally when Paramount released Friday the 13th, and it was obvious the little guy wouldn't have a gratuitous content advantage anymore.
Besides, when NvNMs came out, there was almost no way to see an older movie, save if it was on TV. And it's far lamer now to see studios spending hundreds of millions of dollars to redo old films (and seldom with the idea of actually making them better), much less TV shows and such.
PEGGY: I don't see how having a girl on the team would ruin it. Did a woman judge ruin the Supreme Court?
HANK: Yes, and that woman's name was Earl Warren.
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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Israel
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 09:16:18 AM
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Originally posted by twitterpate
I think someone explained the preference for remakes over original material as an example of group-think. For example, a writer pitches an original story - the suits go "But no one else has ever done this; if we go with it, and it tanks, we'll look like idiots." Someone offers the nth remake of "The Most Dangerous Game", and the suits go "Well, other people have thought this story worth doing, and sometimes it's panned out; if this one tanks, at least it's not due to the concept being stupid. So, if we end up as losers, at least we'll have company."
If I were an actress, a director, or a scriptwriter, I would want to create my own characters, make my own mistakes, and not have my work endlessly compared with somebody else's. |
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Ken HPoJ
Supreme Potentate
USA
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 10:01:26 AM
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Well, that separates you from the actors, directors and screenwriters in Hollywood, who prefer to be paid millions of dollars--even tens of millions of dollars--for their services.
PEGGY: I don't see how having a girl on the team would ruin it. Did a woman judge ruin the Supreme Court?
HANK: Yes, and that woman's name was Earl Warren.
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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Israel
469 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2006 : 10:54:27 AM
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Originally posted by Ken HPoJ
Well, that separates you from the actors, directors and screenwriters in Hollywood, who prefer to be paid millions of dollars--even tens of millions of dollars--for their services.
If I were a movie star, I wiould want to make tens of millions of dollars PLAYING ROLES NOBODY ELSE HAD PLAYED BEFORE. |
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Ken HPoJ
Supreme Potentate
USA
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 2:11:48 PM
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Those aren't the kind of roles they pay you ten million dollars to make.
On another subject, that Will Smith remake of Last Man on Earth / Omega Man sounds interesting...
PEGGY: I don't see how having a girl on the team would ruin it. Did a woman judge ruin the Supreme Court?
HANK: Yes, and that woman's name was Earl Warren.
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 8:20:57 PM
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Originally posted by Ken HPoJ
On another subject, that Will Smith remake of Last Man on Earth / Omega Man sounds interesting...
Oh fer gawd's sake, it's Will Smith now? Well, that's better than Ahnold I guess... (And I LIKE Ahnold, don't get me wrong, but not as Chuck Heston!!)
Coming soon-
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Ken HPoJ
Supreme Potentate
USA
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Posted - 05/25/2006 : 11:26:45 AM
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Actually, Vincent Price was the guy in the first one, and it was better. However, of course it is now concieved as a typically humoungous action piece, so an Arnod or Bruce Willis or Will Smith is what they need.
PEGGY: I don't see how having a girl on the team would ruin it. Did a woman judge ruin the Supreme Court?
HANK: Yes, and that woman's name was Earl Warren.
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hbrennan
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Philippines
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Posted - 05/25/2006 : 1:04:20 PM
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I liked Price in "Last Man on Earth" (I have it on a double feature DVD with "The House on Haunted Hill"). The setting (Italy) was particulary creepy. It would be tough to do a decent remake and I'm not really looking forward to one starring Will Smith. It's all been done to death. The original story by Richard Matheson - "I Am Legend", is an excellent read.
"...yet it hadn't destroyed his brain."
re: Charles "The Butcher" Benton (1956)
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MikeC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 05/25/2006 : 2:14:57 PM
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But: NvTNM has Mamie Van Doren.
That's enough to get ME to watch. |
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commodorejohn
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
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Posted - 05/25/2006 : 4:56:41 PM
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Originally posted by New Hinda
THE NAVY VS. THE NIGHT MONSTERS was inspired by the great THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD. I have never understood Hollywood's mania for remakes. Hollywood is not only full of aspiring scriptwriters, Hollywood is full of established scriptwriters who have scripts they can't interest anybody in, yet Hollywood keeps cranking out the cruddy remakes. Why did Michael A Hooey set out to make a doomed-to-be-lousy-remake of a great film? If he wanted to film a supernatural plant yarn, what was wrong with E Nesbit's "The Pavilion" or Manly Wade Wellman"s "Come into my Parlor?"
Or, if they wanted a killer-alien-plantlike-thing-in-subzero-climate movie to cash in on The Thing From Another World, why not H.P. Lovecraft's excellent At The Mountains Of Madness?
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John Nowak
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 05/26/2006 : 9:54:35 PM
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Actually, I think "Last Man on Earth" would be a relatively simple film to do, technically -- there's no need for elaborate special effects, and no big stars. Do it as something intimate, small, microscopic even. One guy, alone (almost) slowly losing it.
The problem is that you'd need a damn good actor to pull it off. Vincent Price was just stunning in that film. I'd like to see Paul Giamatti try it, or Lance Henriksen.
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 05/29/2006 : 10:50:51 AM
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"The last man on earth sat in his room. There was a lock on the door."
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935 |
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John Nowak
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 05/29/2006 : 11:40:35 AM
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Originally posted by Greenhornet
"The last man on earth sat in his room. There was a lock on the door."
I think the quote is
"The last man on earth sat in his room. There was a knock on the door."
But "lock" is good too.
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WinterHarvest
Altar Boy of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 05/29/2006 : 3:16:48 PM
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On another subject, that Will Smith remake of Last Man on Earth / Omega Man sounds interesting...
To quote the thespian, "Ah, Hell No". Seriously, did we learn nothing from I, Robot? Nothing? |
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