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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

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Posted - 07/20/2006 :  11:13:22 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Citizen Carrier

http://www-english.tamu.edu/pers/fac/myers/bad_writing.html




A quote from the article about that years winner of the bad Writing Award:
"She is routinely placed in the company of Friedrich Nietzsche, Martin Heidegger, Michel Foucault, and Jacques Derrida."


That should tip off anyone paying attention right there *g*

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Edited by - Sardu on 07/20/2006 11:18:58 PM
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Gristle McThornbody
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

Germany
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Posted - 07/21/2006 :  10:11:45 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Citizen Carrier

quote:
Originally posted by RVHorror

I actually *did* read Finnegans Wake, from start to finish. Did I get anything out of it, other than the ability to say "I've read it"? Why...that would be telling!



But I can guess. Here's a SINGLE sentence from "Finnegans Wake".

Shem's bodily getup, it seems, included an adze of a skull, an
eight of a larkseye, the whoel of a nose, one numb arm up a
sleeve, fortytwo hairs off his uncrown, eighteen to his mock lip,
a trio of barbels from his megageg chin (sowman's son), the
wrong shoulder higher than the right, all ears, an artificial
tongue with a natural curl, not a foot to stand on, a handful of
thumbs, a blind stomach, a deaf heart, a loose liver, two fifths of
two buttocks, one gleetsteen avoirdupoider for him, a manroot
of all evil, a salmonkelt's thinskin, eelsblood in his cold toes, a
bladder tristended, so much so that young Master Shemmy on
his very first debouch at the very dawn of protohistory seeing
himself such and such, when playing with thistlewords in their
garden nursery, Griefotrofio, at Phig Streat III Shuvlin, Old
Hoeland, (would we go back there now for sounds, pillings and
sense?

Reading this is like that scene in "Doc Hollywood" where everybody politely tolerates the drunken old town doctor as he slurs out a bunch of Walt Whitman poems. At least Whitman was intelligible and insisted on using actual ENGLISH language.

I mean really. Joyce played a tremendous joke on a lot of stuffed shirts, of which he was obviously one, and people are still trying to figure it out.



What's even more telling about Finnegans Wake is that the passage C.C. quoted above would be listed under the "More Plainly Written" column when qualifying paragraphs of FW. The other columns are "What Language Is This?", "If You Drink Half a Fifth of Jameson's and Read This Out Loud With an Irish Brogue, It Kind of Sounds Poetic", and "You Have Got to be Friggin' Joking"

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Citizen Carrier
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

322 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2006 :  3:34:29 PM  Show Profile
Indeed, why didn't the publisher look up from the manuscript of "Finnegans Wake" with an expression of horror not unlike that of Shelly Duvall in Kubrick's "The Shining" when she realized her insane husband had been typing "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" day after day after day?

"My God, Joyce has gone off the deep end!"

The should give him an honorary, retroactive Coogler Award for just being plain stylistically awful.

Edited by - Citizen Carrier on 07/21/2006 3:35:35 PM
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RVHorror
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USA
532 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2006 :  3:47:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit RVHorror's Homepage
I imagine the thinking of Joyce's publisher was probably something along the lines of, "My God, I don't understand ANY of this...however, if I actually SAY that, I'll look like some bougouise [sp] fool, and everyone will laugh at me! If, on the other hand I publish it and say it's brilliant, my secret identity is safe."

Never underestimate the power of Not Wanting to Look Foolish.
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jackspencerjr
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

262 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2006 :  6:22:09 PM  Show Profile
Well, my take on that whole period suggests that a more likely thought was "My God, I don't understand ANY of this...it must be DEEP."

As seen in movies like Zardoz, it was a whole generation that confounded confusing or just plain nonsensical with deep and meaningful.
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1126 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2006 :  6:29:37 PM  Show Profile
The tale of The Emperor's New Clothes indicates that this is nothing new... *g*

"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
--Tampopo
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