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jackspencerjr
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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 Posted - 06/18/2006 : 8:00:50 PM
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Hi guys,
I picked up the Rambo trilogy on DVD relatively cheapy the other day. I had never seen them before. I just finished the second one and I just have to say that John Rambo has the noisiest arrows in the whole wide world. Seriously. They are almost as noisy as a gunshot, particularly that Asian chick's little uzi-like thing with the silencer on it still going bangbangbangbangbang! INcredible, man. But his arrows go like WHOOOOOOShshshshooOOM! A Maze Zing! |
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1791 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2006 : 9:28:59 PM
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Yet another weapon blunder from Hollywood.
In one movie I saw a couple of characters useing silenced pistols at night and the MUZZLE FLASH was like a flash bulb! Silencers, for those who don't know, have the bonus of acting as "flash hiders" since they contain the burning propelant gases.
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935 |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1126 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2006 : 9:32:02 PM
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You know why? Because he's John Friggin'"Order More Body Bags" Rambo and John Rambo don't shoot no weenie quiet wooshy arrow!!(And anyway, it's those big exploding tips that make all the noise!)
*g*
Coming soon-
Eraserhead: The Musical!! |
Edited by - Sardu on 06/18/2006 9:37:56 PM |
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Capt. Nemo
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
630 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2006 : 9:36:37 PM
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You have to agree. When they do Rambo 4. They NEED to bring that Bow & Arrow set back.
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
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Posted - 06/19/2006 : 06:25:23 AM
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| True, that's hysterical. I mean, why use noisy arrows (which cause huge explosions, on top of that) instead of packing an RPG? |
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Gristle McThornbody
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Germany
186 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2006 : 09:48:51 AM
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John Rambo doesn't sleep...he waits.
Oh sorry, that's Chuck Norris.
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1791 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2006 : 4:30:20 PM
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Originally posted by Gristle McThornbody
John Rambo doesn't sleep...he waits.
Oh sorry, that's Chuck Norris.
Are you sure it's not the Pinkerton detective agency?
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935 |
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jackspencerjr
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
262 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2006 : 5:41:54 PM
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| It wasn't the exploding arrows. Those I expected to be noisy. But the regular arrows that just pinned a guy's head to a post, the pointy non-explodey kind, made an over-loud whooshing sound. |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1126 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2006 : 8:48:53 PM
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Originally posted by jackspencerjr
It wasn't the exploding arrows. Those I expected to be noisy. But the regular arrows that just pinned a guy's head to a post, the pointy non-explodey kind, made an over-loud whooshing sound.
They were still probably modified by JR himself to strike fear into the (Godless)hearts of his enemies.
Coming soon-
Eraserhead: The Musical!! |
Edited by - Sardu on 06/19/2006 8:49:39 PM |
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Capt. Nemo
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
630 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2006 : 9:09:58 PM
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Originally posted by jackspencerjr
It wasn't the exploding arrows. Those I expected to be noisy. But the regular arrows that just pinned a guy's head to a post, the pointy non-explodey kind, made an over-loud whooshing sound.
If you listen closely to both Rambo 2 & 3, you'll hear that the exploding arrows have a clicking noise. Some people might mistake it as part of the music soundtrack. But it isn't. I think that is supposed to be the sound of the detonator mechanism.
Oddly, the detonator only activated after you twist the arrow head. But this maybe a continuity error because clearly in some scene Rambo didn't even bother to arm the arrowheads.
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jackspencerjr
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
262 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2006 : 2:58:48 PM
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Originally posted by Sardu
They were still probably modified by JR himself to strike fear into the (Godless)hearts of his enemies.
Unlikely, in Rambo 1 First Blood Part II, he assembles the bow. The chick asks what it was and he says something to the effect of "It's a bow. It's quieter." A line made stupid thanks to the sound effects guy. |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1126 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2006 : 8:17:51 PM
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Well, the arrows ARE quieter than the guns... *g*
Coming soon-
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twitterpate
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Canada
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Posted - 06/21/2006 : 12:43:54 PM
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Apparently during WWII, the Germans added a whistle to the fusilage of Stuka divebombers. They felt the "scream" made the bombardment even more intimidating.
Perhaps the arrows were designed on the same principle? |
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MikeC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
749 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2006 : 07:26:00 AM
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Originally posted by Greenhornet
Yet another weapon blunder from Hollywood.
In one movie I saw a couple of characters useing silenced pistols at night and the MUZZLE FLASH was like a flash bulb! Silencers, for those who don't know, have the bonus of acting as "flash hiders" since they contain the burning propelant gases.
Weeeellll......
Not quite.
A 'flash supressor' and a silencer are in fact two
different items. Not all silencers have flash
supressors, and though I'm not up on current weaponry,
you could get flash supressors for rifles and other
long arms that had no silencing capacity.
Now, the action of a silencer would tend to minimize
any muzzle flash by virtue of the fact that it disperses
the hot exhaust gasses of the weapon. But, it is not
sufficient itself to completely eliminate muzzle flash.
Would the flash be anywhere near as visible as it is
in a Hollywood movie? No, of course not, not even on
a completely stock weapon. In movies they have special
cartridge loads that make nice big flashes that look
good on camera. When he was making JFK, Oliver Stone's
armorers had to work very hard to duplicate the 'white
puffs of smoke' that some witnesses claim to have seen
on/around the grassy knoll, since no gun manufactured
in this century uses powder that gives off that kind of
residue.
Just setting the record straight.
MikeC, Knows a little about silencers..... |
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Ericb
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
648 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2006 : 07:32:15 AM
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In Rambo IV Rambo returns to Afganistan to kill the people he helped in Rambo III.
"I reserve the right to look as well as be boring." - Robert Fripp |
Edited by - Ericb on 06/22/2006 07:32:57 AM |
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 06/22/2006 : 3:25:55 PM
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Now, the action of a silencer would tend to minimize
any muzzle flash by virtue of the fact that it disperses
the hot exhaust gasses of the weapon. But, it is not
sufficient itself to completely eliminate muzzle flash.
A proper silencer is HUGE and would be sufficent to hide the flash. Hollywood uses small cylenders and sometimes GRENADE LAUNCHERS to simulate silencers, these would be too small to be effective. Here's a few real ones, note the size of them in relation to the guns.
http://www.impactguns.com/store/silencers.html
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