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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
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 Posted - 08/08/2006 : 08:02:17 AM
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Newpapers still trying to milk Mel Gibson's latest controvery have more stuff to worry about, looks like a fifth Lethal Weapon could be possible.
I still like action films, so here's my list of things I'd demand if I was asked my opinion by the studio:
- Richard Donner must keep the camera still this time, he ain't no Michael Bay.
- Joe Pesci's character must die in the first frame. No, wait, he'd better die off screen and we'll be told that by some supporting actor. Anything to keep annoying Leo out of the movie.
- Silly humour and explosions' number must be reduced to as little as necessary.
- The bad guy must be Jet Li's (more) evil twin.
- The studio must gather all dragon balls and resurrect Michael Kamen so he can compose the score again.
- Mel Gibson should stop spending romantic moments with Rene Russo and let that hair grow again, he looks nuttier that way.
- Neither Chris Rock, nor Murtaugh's daughter, nor any more annoying, unnecesary characters should appear again.
- Riggs will be given a bionichal shoulder so we are spared his shoulder trick scene this time.
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cschack
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Norway
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Posted - 08/08/2006 : 1:30:21 PM
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Well, why not? They already greenlit [url="http://www.bestweekever.tv/2006/08/07/icymi-mel-gets-mashed-again/"]Signs 2.[/url] ;-)
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Ken HPoJ
Supreme Potentate
USA
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Posted - 08/08/2006 : 1:57:08 PM
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The problem is, it's really not going to help his public relations problems much given that it's full title is Lethal Weapon IV: Damn Those Freakin' Jews.
Sorry, cheap shot. Couldn't help myself.
PEGGY: I don't see how having a girl on the team would ruin it. Did a woman judge ruin the Supreme Court?
HANK: Yes, and that woman's name was Earl Warren.
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2006 : 3:39:49 PM
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| Hey, maybe they will provide him with a Jewish sidekick this time. Either that or Murthaugh or Leo will convert to Judaism. |
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1294 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2006 : 5:52:57 PM
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| Ken, you is a bad widdle kid. |
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John Nowak
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1017 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2006 : 8:42:10 PM
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Originally posted by Ken HPoJ
The problem is, it's really not going to help his public relations problems ...
I laughed too. I am so going to hell.
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kdraut
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 08/08/2006 : 8:44:35 PM
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| Nothing like action films that are blatantly anti-gun. Someone needs to kick Donner in the nuts repeatedly. |
Edited by - kdraut on 08/08/2006 8:45:18 PM |
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2006 : 02:00:59 AM
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| Except Lethal Weapon 3, which included a subplot regarding stolen firearms, I can't think of any of the Lethal Weapon films to be anti-gun. |
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kdraut
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
343 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2006 : 07:23:45 AM
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Originally posted by Neville
Except Lethal Weapon 3, which included a subplot regarding stolen firearms, I can't think of any of the Lethal Weapon films to be anti-gun.
The first 2 weren't too bad, 3 and 4 were complete garbage. Look in the background during the scenes in the police station. There are huge anti-NRA and anti-gun posters on the walls. Lethal Weapon 3 spewed the usual BS about "cop killer" bullets. They don't exist. Period. The NRA provides training for police departments and holds shooting competitions for LEOs.
Listen to the commentary track for Lethal Weapon 4. Donners rants about the NRA, politics, and occasionally, the film.
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2006 : 2:11:54 PM
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Never paid much attention to those details, except the "cop-killer" bullets, which sounded pretty silly. I mean, shouldn't most bullet types bullets go through an armour when shot at close range?* On the other hand, it makes sense to me that a police precint -despite NRA providing police training- would have anti-gun ads on display for the visitors. The less firearms in their district, the easier their job should be. Of course, I have no idea if such ads really exist or if they are displayed on real precints, which is an important aspect.
Anyway, what IMHO killed the series for me were two major problems:
1) How careless Donner became with his camerawork. Take the shootouts in the first films, you can actually tell who shoots who, whereas in Lethal Weapon IV the climatic shootout is so damn confusing you can't tell who is shooting who and if they missed or what.
2) There's also the issue of how crowded the series became after the second entry. Leo's character was already annoying in #2, but at least he played an important part in the plot. He didn't do that in the next two films, but somehow he seems to have more and more screentime everytime. And then they added Rene Russo's character, and then Chris Rock... I bet this time they will have Rigg's baby helping his dad too.
* Keep in mind I've never used a firearm, so excuse my ignorance in such matters. |
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Ken HPoJ
Supreme Potentate
USA
1530 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2006 : 3:28:34 PM
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"The less firearms in their district, the easier their job should be."
Actually, that's not remotely true. The *more* guns are in the district, held in the hands of law-abiding citizens, the less crime there is.
The areas with the strictest gun controls laws have the worse crime. And it works in that direction, not the other way. The majority of states have concealed or non-concealed carry laws now, and they have lower violent crime rates than the states that don't have carry laws.
Check out the stats for Britain over the last decade, too.
PEGGY: I don't see how having a girl on the team would ruin it. Did a woman judge ruin the Supreme Court?
HANK: Yes, and that woman's name was Earl Warren.
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kdraut
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
343 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2006 : 3:29:12 PM
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Originally posted by Neville
Never paid much attention to those details, except the "cop-killer" bullets, which sounded pretty silly. I mean, shouldn't most bullet types bullets go through an armour when shot at close range?*
* Keep in mind I've never used a firearm, so excuse my ignorance in such matters.
Soft body armor (Level IIIA) will stop almost any handgun round. Most centerfire rifles will zip through body armor. [url]http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot16.htm[/url] The scene at the end where Mel Gibson shoots through a bulldozer blade with "cop killer" bullets is pure fantasy.
Teflon coating does not improve a bullet's ability to penetrate soft body armor. Ronin got that one wrong as well. Penetration is determined by bullet shape and composition. To reliably penetrate soft body armor, you would want a sharp-nosed bullet composed of very dense material, like tungsten.
The much-feared "cop killer" bullet is a product of media hysteria. Winchester released a bullet in the 1990's called the Black Talon. IT had, among other feature, a coating of a proprietary lubricant called Lubalox. The coating was to reduce bore friction and chamber pressure. It did nothing to improve the armor-piercing ability of the rounds. Much media hype and misinformation followed and Winchester voluntarily stopped making the ammo in 1994.
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2006 : 4:07:44 PM
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Originally posted by Ken HPoJ
"The less firearms in their district, the easier their job should be."
Actually, that's not remotely true. The *more* guns are in the district, held in the hands of law-abiding citizens, the less crime there is.
If you say so... living in a country with both anti-gun laws and a quite low crime rate the only idea of having more guns in my community makes me feel paranoid.
To each their own, I guess.
BTW, thanks kdraut for the gun / armour info, that was quite interesting. |
Edited by - Neville on 08/09/2006 4:10:06 PM |
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hbrennan
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Philippines
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Posted - 08/09/2006 : 5:27:24 PM
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Japan is another example of strict gun control and a very low crime rate. In some cases the gun to crime ratio is culturally dependant.
"...yet it hadn't destroyed his brain."
re: Charles "The Butcher" Benton (1956)
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Ericb
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
648 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2006 : 6:09:31 PM
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Uh, how come all the Texas cities on this list have higher crime rates than New York City? In fact New York has one of the lowest crime rates of any major city in the US.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004902.html
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Ericb
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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