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hbrennan
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Philippines
1455 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2006 :  12:00:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit hbrennan's Homepage
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/08/23/cruise.paramountbreak.ap/index.html

It seems that Tom Cruise's antics are finally beginning to catch up to him. While I tend to separate an actors off-screen ridiculous behavior with his or her's film work, I'm willing to make an exception in Tom's case.

"...yet it hadn't destroyed his brain."
re: Charles "The Butcher" Benton (1956)

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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2006 :  1:09:16 PM  Show Profile
So what if Paramount dumps him? His latest "bomb" (MI3) earned 150 million, so I wouldn't be surprised if any other studio hired him inmediately. It's gonna take a long, long time until we see Tom Cruise doing direct-to-video or even working for less than 20 million per movie.
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hbrennan
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Philippines
1455 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2006 :  1:19:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit hbrennan's Homepage
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Neville wrote: So what if Paramount dumps him? His latest "bomb" (MI3) earned 150 million, so I wouldn't be surprised if any other studio hired him inmediately. It's gonna take a long, long time until we see Tom Cruise doing direct-to-video or even working for less than 20 million per movie.


That's true and rightfully so, since Cruise is still a good actor. It's just nice to see someone refusing to turn a blind eye to his insanity even at the risk of losing a few dollars. Pretty rare for the film industry, these days.

"...yet it hadn't destroyed his brain."
re: Charles "The Butcher" Benton (1956)

http://henrybrennan.blogspot.com/
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RVHorror
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
532 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2006 :  2:44:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit RVHorror's Homepage
Acording to the IMDB, MI3 cost $150 million, and earned about $133. Granted, it will probably pick up quite a bit more when it gets released on home video, but it hardly seems like a big success based on those numbers.

It's been a few years since he had a huge, runaway hit (I'm not sure WotW counts). I do grant the point, though, that studios will continue to hire him and pay him lots of money. Perception in Hollywood is more important than reality.
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Ken HPoJ
Supreme Potentate

USA
1530 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2006 :  4:07:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ken HPoJ's Homepage
The worldwide gross was about $400 million. M:I3 is considered to have "under performed"; i.e., it will generate profits, but not to the level that had been expected.

In other words, it's did a bit better than X-Men III (although that will probably do better on home vid), in that X-Men III made about $40 million more--and rather more domestically (and hence less in foreign)--but with a production budget $60 million higher than M:I3.

Cruise's film did markedly better than Superman Returns, which might break even when all is said and done--home vid, TV rights, etc.,--but has at this point earned a worldwide gross of $360 million (less than M:I3, nearly a hundred million less than X-Men III) on a monstrous $270 production budget. Ouch! Both did better than Poseidon, which was an outright bomb.

Actually, Pirates of the Caribean is pretty much the only huge hit this summer, at least based on raw numbers. Or to clarify, it's the only legitimate blockbuster, having earned north of $900 million worldwide. Meanwhile, the Devil Wears Prada has earned domestically $120 million on a $35 million budget.


PEGGY: I don't see how having a girl on the team would ruin it. Did a woman judge ruin the Supreme Court?
HANK: Yes, and that woman's name was Earl Warren.

--King of the Hill
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tam1MI
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USA
558 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2006 :  7:40:52 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Ken HPoJ
Actually, Pirates of the Caribean is pretty much the only huge hit this summer, at least based on raw numbers.



According to an article I just read from Reuters, PIRATES performance was enough to cause the summer box office to bounce back from it's lackluster performance last year to 2004-ish levels. 9I suspect that Pixar's CARS also helped in that regard). Rather odd, since I thought that last summer had better overall cinematic offerings than this summer.

Anybody know when ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY's annual summer box office analysis is due to come out? the one that breaks out which movies were the hits, which ones the flops, which ones underperformed, and which ones were surprise box office smashes? It would be interesting to see what the list looks like this summer...
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2006 :  8:08:31 PM  Show Profile
tam1MI, if you can't wait, boxofficemojo.com is a good site to get that kind of in-depth analysis on a weekly basis.
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Terrahawk
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USA
644 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2006 :  9:36:22 PM  Show Profile
My understanding was that "Cars" underperformed. I figure it underperformed for a couple of reasons. One, there's been a glut of animated films lately. Two, the trailers highlighted some adult in-jokes which Pixar has been known for avoiding up to that point.

Let's face it, PotC:DMC was really the only film that had any hype associated with it. Superman really didn't inspire much excitement. The sad thing is that the concept of picking up after the second original film was good. The execution on that concept was really poor though.

My question though is where are the sci-fi films? We seem to be in a serious slump here. Are we in for another 10-15 year period where only a couple of films come out that really grab your attention? "Serenity" has been the only recent film I can think of and it wasn't what you would call inspiring. (Whedon is really overrated in my opinion.)

The ROPe gives you three options, convert, submit, or die. There is a fourth, resist.
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RVHorror
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
532 Posts

Posted - 08/24/2006 :  3:17:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit RVHorror's Homepage
Terrahawk, what are you counting as sci-fi? Both War of the Worlds and Star Wars III came out last year, and while I didn't really like either, they're kind of science-fiction-y.

Granted, thoughtful sci-fi (I'd probably put Serenity there) is in short supply, but that's a decades-long problem.
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RVHorror
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
532 Posts

Posted - 08/24/2006 :  3:19:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit RVHorror's Homepage
My big problem with this summer's films is that there was not a single, solitary film where I thought, "I've got to see that." Last summer I saw a bunch of stuff, most of which was mediocre, but the lead-up made me interested in seeing them. This year, zilch.
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1294 Posts

Posted - 08/24/2006 :  6:42:47 PM  Show Profile
I remember being a movie-goin' fool in '95, going to see at least one theatrical movie a week, and usually coming out feeling like I got my money's worth. So far this year, I've seen five, count 'em, five movies on the big screen. I walked out on one, and may have walked out on a second if I hadn't gotten to see it free in the first place. (There are two or three I regret not seeing.)

Oh, to keep it on topic, I saw Tommy boy in Collateral in '04. Haven't gone to the theater to see him since, and there's a good chance I never will again.
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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
644 Posts

Posted - 08/24/2006 :  8:53:00 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by RVHorror

Terrahawk, what are you counting as sci-fi? Both War of the Worlds and Star Wars III came out last year, and while I didn't really like either, they're kind of science-fiction-y.

Granted, thoughtful sci-fi (I'd probably put Serenity there) is in short supply, but that's a decades-long problem.



That's my point. We've only had a trickle and not much original at that. I miss the late 70's/early 80's. You at least had a couple of sci-fi flicks to look forward to every summer. Now, we're pretty much to the point of waiting on sequels that are at the end of their lifespan. Actually, we're beyond even that. I can't think of any sci-fi film series that is left. The Matrix imploded. Star Wars is done. Star Trek has run completely out of steam. The Alien films likewise are kaput. We are in the desert at the moment.

The ROPe gives you three options, convert, submit, or die. There is a fourth, resist.
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Renfield
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu

USA
27 Posts

Posted - 08/24/2006 :  11:01:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit Renfield's Homepage
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It seems that Tom Cruise's antics are finally beginning to catch up to him. While I tend to separate an actors off-screen ridiculous behavior with his or her's film work, I'm willing to make an exception in Tom's case.


Same here. Never understood his great popularity. Always struck me as a one-note actor.

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BT
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

USA
168 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2006 :  12:31:06 PM  Show Profile
Just wanted to add that while MI3 might end up making a TON of money, from what I understand, Paramount is probably going to only break even on it. Most of the profits are going right into Cruise's pockets. So Paramount isn't really making as big of a sacrifice as it appears.
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