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Carrieattheprom
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
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 Posted - 12/05/2005 : 7:28:45 PM
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Judging it by the clips alone it looks like it's a great movie. Certainly a lot better than previous remakes. I like that the movie is taking place in the 1930s. Has anybody seen this yet? I really want to. Does anybody else have an opinion?
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CobraCmdr
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/06/2005 : 08:39:09 AM
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| Yeah definately the movie I am most looking forward to this winter. Even if it doesn't live up to the hype it will still be 1,000 times better than the 70's Anti-Big Oil/Guy in a rubber suit version. Skull Island looks creepy as hell! |
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twitterpate
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Canada
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Posted - 12/06/2005 : 09:54:51 AM
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Don't know about the movie, but a KILLER trailer, isn't it?
I think that even if it doesn't hit it out of the park, it'll be a MUCH worthier remake than the (snort, giggle) Dino Di Laurentiis version, and worth the price of a ticket. |
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Triviachamp
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/06/2005 : 10:47:34 AM
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| Will the anti-remake rhetoric on this board apply to King Kong as well? :P |
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twitterpate
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Canada
1026 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2005 : 11:04:50 AM
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A remake done by someone who loves the story, has genuine artistic talent, and can let us see it with a new vision, is always welcome. Particularly with the considerable time gap between this one and the "real" original version.
A remake based on the suits saying, "well, this movie made X million 15 years ago, so we can probably go to the well one more time - maybe we can make it more like Y [Y being hit movie of previous year])" is a different issue.
*For example, let Y=Jaws, and you end up with the '70's Kong. |
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KurtVon
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/06/2005 : 11:15:32 AM
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Originally posted by twitterpate
A remake done by someone who loves the story, has genuine artistic talent, and can let us see it with a new vision, is always welcome. Particularly with the considerable time gap between this one and the "real" original version.
I agree, a remake is not an automatic disaster. For example, I actualy think the remake Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is significantly better than the (admittedly not bad) Bedtime Story.
Rather than ask "let's see how we can make the story 'better'" they asked "where can we improve on the weak points while keeping the good parts."
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Bobby-G
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/06/2005 : 12:54:12 PM
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Well, I think people get upset when a remake of one of their favorite movies comes along, and it's presented (maybe not on purpose)as a "replacement" of the beloved original (like "this time we're going to do it RIGHT") -- This Kong doesn't come across as something that's supposed to do that.
Another thing that bugs fans of an original is when the remake is incompetent, and again, this doesn't seem to be the case.
I don't think this movie no matter how good it may be can ever become Iconic like the original, but looks like it can be a spectacular viewing experience.
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CobraCmdr
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/06/2005 : 1:29:38 PM
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I think remakes are okay when:
A. The original is not especially well known , or was admitted to be slightly flawed despite having a good premise
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B. The movie is an admitted classic, but would be interesting to see updated with modern special effects modern special effects
C. The original story has become tarnished in the public eye and needs a makeover to remind people of how great it is.
I think as long as the original themes of King Kong remain intact a remake is fine. This was not the case with the Toho versions, which border on parody, or the 70's version, which added an environmental message, and made Kong merely a freakishly big ape from some jungle rather than the "King" of a savage and terrible wilderness, taken from his Kingdom and humbled by modern man.
I agree with the statement that this kind of remake is not meant to "replace" the original, just show what it would look like with modern effects and introduce the story to a new generation. It will remind people why the story is so classic and hopefully make them forget the silly, insulting, versions created since the 1930s. |
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RVHorror
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/06/2005 : 4:47:41 PM
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Let's not forget that the Bogart/Huston version of "The Maltese Falcon" was the third go-round.
As for Kong, I think Peter Jackson has enough affection for the original that his version won't sneeringly hold said original in disdain. That attitude--the sneering--is what sinks most remakes. |
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John Doe
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/06/2005 : 7:11:31 PM
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I still have this vivid memory of Dino D proclaiming "When my monkey die, everybody gonna cry!"
my eyes!! the goggles do nothing!! |
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Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Israel
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Posted - 12/07/2005 : 01:29:16 AM
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Originally posted by RVHorror
Let's not forget that the Bogart/Huston version of "The Maltese Falcon" was the third go-round.
Ditto for the Charlton Heston BEN HUR and the Judy Garland THE WIZARD OF OZ. There were also cartoon versions of The Wonderful Wizard of Oz.
The Victor McLaglen version of THE INFORMER was the second go-round.
How does Jackson handle the politically incorrect elements of KING KONG, Charlie, the cook and the natives who say Ann is the Bride of Kong, without being so pussyfoot politically correct that he's just plain silly? |
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Triviachamp
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/07/2005 : 02:01:07 AM
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Originally posted by Hinda
The Victor McLaglen version of THE INFORMER was the second go-round.
Same with the Lost Patrol, which starred his brother! |
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CobraCmdr
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/07/2005 : 07:54:05 AM
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Hinda:
I think he found a good way to handle the issue of the natives, from what I understand they are descended from people shipwrecked on the island who went mad? I could be wrong about this though, but it sounds like a neat idea to add to the creepiness of the place.
As for the cook, in this version he is called Lumpy and is played by Anthony Serkis (aka Gollum), who also "plays" Kong. |
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MikeC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/07/2005 : 08:28:34 AM
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Ultimately, Andy Serkis is the reason I want
to see this version.
That, and my respect for Peter Jackson's respect
for the material he adapts.
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Carrieattheprom
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/07/2005 : 7:28:08 PM
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What do you guys think of Peter Jackson's cast choices? Agree with them? Disagree?
"Go to your closet and pray!" |
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MikeC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/08/2005 : 11:57:10 AM
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Originally posted by Carrieattheprom
What do you guys think of Peter Jackson's cast choices? Agree with them? Disagree?
Mostly agree, even though on paper Jack Black
might not be the right choice given his resume.
Jackson has a good eye for ensemble (as LOTR
proved), and since I like Jack Black I'm hoping
he'll prove that he can be more than a family-
friendly John Belushi-type manic screen comedian.
And Naomi Watts looks good in white chiffon.....
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