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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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 Posted - 01/25/2006 : 10:32:42 AM
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You're right, MikeC, it's been a long time since I saw it.
I remember that "dream" episode, Hinda (I was just flipping past the show by that time) and the only one I liked was Col Potter's dream because it seemed more dream-like than symbolic.
In THE AVENGERS, I thnk they made a mistake when they had Emma Peal's HUSBAND return. Not only was this a cliche`, but it had no effect on the series: she reappiers in a later season, seamingly still in the service.
Her predecessor, Cathy Gale, quit simply because she wanted to! This made her an independant "superwoman" to the end.
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935 |
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sister mary dispair
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
USA
35 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2006 : 3:34:04 PM
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Full House, when they decided to have the boy twins to replace the "aww" factor that Michelle was losing, also the births of twins on Seventh Heaven, after that occourance the producers added so many more charactars it got pretty damn confusing. BTW does anyone else think that there are a lot of twins born in TVland?
"Hmmm...It says here that if a person is not married by the time they are 35 they have a better chance of being robbed at gunpoint by a desperate and somewhat bloated Christian Slater." Harvey Birdman |
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Pip
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
333 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2006 : 4:43:04 PM
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I'll always be mad about Mabel.
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1294 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2006 : 8:23:11 PM
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Pip, do you mean mad about her as in you love the little tyke? Or mad about her as in you wish you could storm in a do a short-red-headed-crazy-lady dressing down of everyone involved?
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Representing Labor
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
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Posted - 01/26/2006 : 08:07:36 AM
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Originally posted by Greenhornet
In THE AVENGERS, I thnk they made a mistake when they had Emma Peal's HUSBAND return. Not only was this a cliche`, but it had no effect on the series: she reappiers in a later season, seamingly still in the service.
Her predecessor, Cathy Gale, quit simply because she wanted to! This made her an independant "superwoman" to the end.
Agreed. When I first watched her send-off episode, The Forget Me Knot, I assumed she was never going to recover her memories and run off with the guy she was imprisoned with. Imagine my surprise--and extreme disappointment--at the last minute cop-out we got instead. |
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tam1MI
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
558 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2006 : 10:43:40 PM
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Originally posted by MikeC
Oh, and GALACTICA 1980, which also had Robbie Rist, so
it could count as an extended Brady mistake. GAL80
was perhaps the apotheosis of Hollywood's lack of
respect for SF fandom (something that has only somewhat
diminished in recent years: see the hash that the
STAR TREK franchise became, as well as the cavalier
treatment of FARSCAPE by SFC).
To this day, my friends and I refer to GALACTICA 1980 as GLACTICA '80: WE GOTTA PAY OFF THE SETS.
The show that for me went from fantastic to craptacular in the quickest span of time was JOAN OF ARCADIA. The first season in was great, the second season, when they brought on Joan's JD friend and the chain-smoking ex-nun, it started to suck so hard that time bent back on itself and light couldn't escape.
And I am a bit surprised how we have gotten so far into this thread without mentioning how the X-Files dive-bombed into suck city the minute Mulder and Scully became an "official" couple. |
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Carrieattheprom
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
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Posted - 01/28/2006 : 11:33:29 AM
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How about the ending to St. Elsewhere? My aunt is *still* furious about that!
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
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Posted - 01/29/2006 : 02:40:36 AM
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Originally posted by sister mary dispair
BTW does anyone else think that there are a lot of twins born in TVland?
Thre's a reason for that, laws allow only a certain ammount of work hours for small children, so the use to cast twoins to be able to double them. Of course, when they grow older and that law does not longer apply, if those kids want to go on acting their only chance is to star in their own "Cool! We're twins!" TV series / films. Take the Olsen twins, they only played one character in "Full house", but played twins ever after. |
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Cannon Fodder
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Australia
176 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2006 : 07:54:52 AM
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| Red Dwarf. The first six seasons were great. Consistantly funny and well written by writers Grant and Naylor with things at the best in series 5 and 6. Then Grant leaves and with half the writing team the show suddenly and immediately plummets into being almost total crap for the last two series. I don't think I've ever seen such a dramatic drop in quality in a TV show. Not only was there a huge drop in the quality of the scripts the premise of the shows gets royally shafted several times over from the first episode of series 7 onwards- the crew suddenly have access to time drive and can suddenly reach earth with no explanation when the key point of the premise of the show is that they are stranded millions of years from earth with no real chance of returning to earth, let alone to any period in earth history they choose. They should have ended it when half the writing team left. |
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 02/01/2006 : 6:25:26 PM
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Originally posted by Cannon Fodder
Red Dwarf. The first six seasons were great. Consistantly funny and well written by writers Grant and Naylor with things at the best in series 5 and 6. Then Grant leaves and with half the writing team the show suddenly and immediately plummets into being almost total crap for the last two series. I don't think I've ever seen such a dramatic drop in quality in a TV show. Not only was there a huge drop in the quality of the scripts the premise of the shows gets royally shafted several times over from the first episode of series 7 onwards- the crew suddenly have access to time drive and can suddenly reach earth with no explanation when the key point of the premise of the show is that they are stranded millions of years from earth with no real chance of returning to earth, let alone to any period in earth history they choose. They should have ended it when half the writing team left.
Sadly laddie, i gotta agree. When the gang ended up on the Nanite version of the RD, Listie lost the drive and imagination that carried him along through so many weirdie, space paradoxies.
No....it just lost something. Some of the shows had some good gags, and brief moments, but over all, it....it was different....and not as i should be.
By the way, know any "Canaries?"
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BrainFromArous
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
USA
102 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2006 : 1:55:13 PM
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Originally posted by tam1MI
quote:
Originally posted by MikeC
Oh, and GALACTICA 1980, which also had Robbie Rist, so
it could count as an extended Brady mistake. GAL80
was perhaps the apotheosis of Hollywood's lack of
respect for SF fandom (something that has only somewhat
diminished in recent years: see the hash that the
STAR TREK franchise became, as well as the cavalier
treatment of FARSCAPE by SFC).
To this day, my friends and I refer to GALACTICA 1980 as GLACTICA '80: WE GOTTA PAY OFF THE SETS.
At least Gal80 gave us RETURN OF STARBUCK, which was so good as to almost - ALMOST - redeem that blasted wasteland of a series.
Some info: http://www.blast.net/hart/BG80.htm
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BrainFromArous
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
USA
102 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2006 : 2:05:14 PM
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X-Files ended for me somewhere during Season 6, when it became obvious that the aliens/black goo/conspiracy story arc had dissolved into utter incoherence. There is a line between byzantine and who-gives-a-crap, and X-Files jumped right over it.
My other big issue with X-Files is what some have called the Sculley Problem. Sculley, of course, was supposed to be the rationalist/skeptic foil to Mulder's "I want to believe" credulity and flights of imagination... which would have been terrific had Sculley acted like a real scientist. Instead, her mindset was closer to pathological denial than rational skepticism.
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1294 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2006 : 2:40:24 PM
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| Brain, I remember reading an interview with Joss Whedon, who said almost the exact same thing you did about Scully. She never changes, she's always the Devil's Advocate, she's always a skeptic, even after seeing hard evidence that There Are Strange Things In The World. |
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1791 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2006 : 3:16:40 PM
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I was never an X-files fan, the few episodes I watched convinced me that Scully was an idiot! She often came on like Lois Lane on a bad day! Maybe the writers will realise that she denys the obvious and make her part of THE CONSPIACY.
But by then, I doubt that anyone will care about this "shocking plot twist".
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1475 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2006 : 10:28:27 PM
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That's not entirely fair. There were plenty of episodes where Scully and Mulder were on the same page (Darkness Falls, Ice, 2Shy, Folie a Deux, and Detour, to name a few) and even one where she was right and Mulder was wrong (War of the Cophrages).
The problem episodes were those directly related to The Conspiracy. Here, the show was on auto-pilot, where plot contrivances necessitated that Mulder would be plunged deeper and deeper into the heart of the conspiracy while Scully was off, I don't know, tying her shoes. Those shows (with the exception of Deep Throat) annoy me to no end...
... but then, I was never that interested in the stupid conspiracy Conspiracy C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y angle anyway. IMHO Scully and Mulder made a great team so long as the show didn't stray too far from the tried-and-true Kolchak formula. When it did... YIKES.
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