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John Doe
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
USA
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 Posted - 11/09/2006 : 7:43:05 PM
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Originally posted by Altair IV
Hi, first post here. I've just got to comment on this one.
I'd never become angry when hearing a cover before, but I'm absolutely livid over the way the Scissor Sisters completely castrated Comfortably Numb (and yes, castrated is the proper term here). I caught it once on MTV and I just sat there slack-jawed that anyone could produce something so completely at odds with everything the original expressed so perfectly. I mean, a disco beat?
You can (unfortunately) check out this crime against nature on youtube:
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-QpMTFv5yg"]Comfortably Dumb[/url]
The Wall is one of my favoritist albums ever. If I ever get my hands on these %#$&%"....
Anyway, on to the
Obligatory introduction
I'm a long time Jabootu reader. I stumbled into the forums a few months back wondering why there hadn't been any updates, and I've been lurking here ever since. I'm a late-30's American male geek with a variety of interests who's been living in Japan for the last decade. I'm not a huge film buff like some of you here, but I hope to throw in my two cents from time to time. Thanks.
New guys alert! Dibs on his spleen!...you did fill out the Jabootu Orgen Doner Card, right?
Welkomen!
Livin in Japan, eh? Conciter yer self on call when Kaiju is the subject.
In a spin off from the topic...anyone ever hear a parody they liked better then the original?
Anytime the oldies station starts playing "American pie", i sing along...useing Weird Al Yankovics words...trust me, it makes a lot more sence the Don McLean's lyrics eved did!
Even better when you have someone in the car, who slowly realises what your doing...the look? Pricless!
Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"
My, My, This here Anakin guy
Maybe Vader, someday later
Now, he's just a small fry
He left his home and kissed his mother goodbye
Singing soon I'm gonna be a Jedi.
I love that song.
my eyes!! the goggles do nothing!! |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1126 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2006 : 8:41:08 PM
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Weird Al has many songs better than the originals- All About the Pentiums (Benjamin's) comes immediately to mind. Also, Amish (Gansta's) Paradise (better than Coolio, not the Stevie Wonder song it was originally stolen- er, sampled from.) and The Chili Pepper's one, Give It Away changed to The Flintsones song ("Yabba-dabba-yabba-dabba-yabba-dabba-dabba doo now!") is great.
I could never really forgive The Carpenters for taking a dump on Day Tripper by The Beatles, or even Calling Occupants Of Planetary Craft by Beatle wannabes Klatuu.
"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Freschel
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
USA
150 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2006 : 12:25:21 AM
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I can think of two very bad remakes of Bohemian Rhapsody. One was made into rap, on the tribute of Freddy Mercury album, and the other was sung by some women accompaniment with only a Casio Keyboard.
It's Coacoa Puffs, Bob. I have no idea why, but it fits the equation. |
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2006 : 04:15:22 AM
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Originally posted by BradH812
On a somewhat related note, does anyone know who did the cover for Comfortably Numb used in The Departed? That was a pretty decent cover, IMO.
Precisely that's the Van Morrison cover version I was talking about before. It's from the 1990 show in Berlin. |
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tam1MI
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
558 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2006 : 11:14:15 PM
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What is up with all of the remakes of 80's hits in the past 2-3 years?
The short answer is, "It's time". Cover versions of hit songs just tend to pop up about 20 years after they were first hits. Maybe that's how long it is for a younger generation to think, "That's a classic" instead of "That's dorky and old." But you can check it out - in the 1970's, remakes of 50's songs were all over (See Grand Funk Railroad's version of "Loc-Motion"), and in the 80's everyone was covering classic 60's tunes (Billy Idol did "Mony Mony", Tiffany massacred covered "I Think We're Alone Now", Joan Jett rocked out "Crimson & clover", and the Bangles just had to be different, so they did "Hazy Shade of Winter"). In the 90's George Clinton's stuff was getting sampled right and left, and rap stars were slaughtering remaking Led Zep tunes.
So, now we are getting covers of 80's songs. Some of them are good, and some of them are horrid. It is the way of things. :) |
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Altair IV
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Japan
110 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2006 : 09:52:42 AM
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Thanks for the, uh, warm, welcome. I think. :)
I'm happy to hear that you all agree with me about that song. Misery loves company and all that, y'know.
To top it off, last night I had a dream where a song started playing on one of those large outdoor screens and I was kind of getting into it. Then I realized it was THAT song...well, it was more of a nightmare really.
And I'll go on record as saying that, with very few exceptions, Weird Al's parodies nearly always outdo the originals. They're certainly more memorable and long-term enjoyable. That man truly has more talent in him than any three other musicians. I also like a lot of the [url="http://www.bobrivers.com/audiovault/tunes/index.asp"]Bob River's Twisted Tunes[/url], which often get mistakenly attributed to Al. I just love well-done parody in general, I guess.
On the subject of good covers, One of my favorites is the cover of I Am The Walrus that Danny Elfman did on his album Boingo. You might want to check it out. The whole album is really good, in a Batman-themed sort of way, though it's really kind of a criticism on the conservative Reagan/Bush government. It's much darker than most of his Oingo Boingo stuff; a very good "unknown" album.
Finally, while I do sometimes enjoy the rubber-suited-guys-stomping-on-Japan movies, I'm not really a Kaiju fan in general. I was into anime back in the 90's before it became big, but ironically, since moving here, I've lost most of my interest in it. But if you ever want a quick, not-particularly-accurate translation of anything Japanese, I'll be happy to give it a shot (don't expect me to translate whole movies though). |
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Altair IV
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Japan
110 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2006 : 10:09:09 AM
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Originally posted by tam1MI
...and the Bangles just had to be different, so they did "Hazy Shade of Winter").
I rather like the Bangles version of the song. In fact, it's a real toss-up as to which I prefer the most. I love both the Bangles and Simon & Garfunkel.
I totally agree with your main point though. It's the same with fashions in general. When the people who were enjoying the [music/clothes,whatever] get old enough to start producing it, you tend to see their old preferences start to seep in. The music industry executives in charge of deciding the next hot trend now were mostly students in the 80's. This is what they grew up with, and so it's what they're green-lighting now. |
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
2329 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2006 : 3:20:05 PM
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Altir IV : Did you ever see GORATH? Its the one where Toho builds gigantonormous rockets on the Earth's butt, and shoots it from the orbit of a rogue planet.
Some Space Cadets "Borrow" a Helicopter and fly about, singing this song.
Seems its some kinda "Space cadet rixel" fight song, or some such. If you ever do see it, could you provide a translation?
Its was a weird puppy, even for a movie with the plot this one had.
Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"
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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
644 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2006 : 5:35:23 PM
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tam1MI, yeah that is a good point. I'll agree with Altair (welcome by the way, just ignore the others' calls for your organs and have a nice comfy seat here while I get you some elderberry wine) that the Bangles remake was pretty good. I think their version was for a James Spader/Rob Lowe film ("Bad Influence" maybe???). I excuse, to some extent, remakes that are done for movies. It doesn't have the scent of "I'm a talentless hack who uses other people's songs to make a name for myself." Rap "stars" have been slaughtering everything since the 90's. No group has less talent than rap "artists". They don't have a sense of humor either. Coolio was pretty ticked at Weird Al for his parody. Virtually everyone else mentions that when Weird Al does a parody of your song, you've done well.
The ROPe gives you three options, convert, submit, or die. There is a fourth, resist. |
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1294 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2006 : 5:46:21 PM
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| Terrahawk, it was Less Than Zero. I've only seen bits and pieces, but that was enough for me. If I remember correctly, it was a Really Big Message movie about drug addiction, starring Robert Downey Jr. INSERT JOKE HERE. |
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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
644 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2006 : 6:58:43 PM
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Thanks Brad. Ahh, Robert Downey Jr., the man who played a character with my last name at one point.
The ROPe gives you three options, convert, submit, or die. There is a fourth, resist. |
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tam1MI
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
558 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2006 : 5:05:47 PM
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Originally posted by BradH812
Terrahawk, it was Less Than Zero. I've only seen bits and pieces, but that was enough for me. If I remember correctly, it was a Really Big Message movie about drug addiction, starring Robert Downey Jr. INSERT JOKE HERE.
That was back when "Robert Downey, Jr. is a screwed-up drug user who manages to foul up every opportunity he ever had and wreck his life" referred to a character he was playing. ;) |
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The Rev. D.D.
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
203 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2006 : 10:05:33 AM
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Coolio was pretty ticked at Weird Al for his parody. Virtually everyone else mentions that when Weird Al does a parody of your song, you've done well.
I thought that was only because Al's record label told him they'd gotten permission for that parody, and they actually hadn't. Once it was all straightened out Coolio was fine with it.
I might be misremembering, but I think that was it.
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twitterpate
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Canada
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Posted - 11/27/2006 : 8:54:03 PM
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Originally posted by Altair IV
Hi, first post here. I've just got to comment on this one.
I'd never become angry when hearing a cover before, but I'm absolutely livid over the way the Scissor Sisters completely castrated Comfortably Numb (and yes, castrated is the proper term here). I caught it once on MTV and I just sat there slack-jawed that anyone could produce something so completely at odds with everything the original expressed so perfectly. I mean, a disco beat?
Wow, Altair ... you certainly picked a Jabootu-worthy piece your first time.
Somehow, I'd never visuallized Comfortably Numb as a a synchronized-swim routine. Particularly fun is watching the singers try to lip-synch as fast as the lyrics-on-speed, while remembering to tread water.
Oh, and welcome! |
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